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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 11 Sep 2018
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      yeah, you're not reading it right

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    2. Stuart Robertson‏ @Amusd_onnlookr 11 Sep 2018
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      then why unintentional instead of intentional?

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 11 Sep 2018
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      that's the kind of question you should really fire up the ol' inference engine for instead of having me fill in the blank but when you have an idea why that word would be there instead of the other one then you'll be reading it right

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    4. crepuscular dispatch‏ @schakalsynthetc 12 Sep 2018
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      what people seem to keep ultimately tripping up on is that "avoid unintentional harm" really means "just show due diligence in trying to avoid it, which includes making an effort to learn from (the inevitable) failures"

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    5. crepuscular dispatch‏ @schakalsynthetc 12 Sep 2018
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      I may even seriously raise the question of whether there even is such a thing as intentional harm, except in a few safely discountable extreme outlier cases. it's really not as obvious as it might feel

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    6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 12 Sep 2018
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      that certainly seems entirely insupportible to me, so naturally i'm very curious as to how you would support it

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    7. crepuscular dispatch‏ @schakalsynthetc 12 Sep 2018
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      I just doubt doing what you know to be harm in the immediate scale without some underlying belief that it's for the good or at least justifiable on some wider scale is really that big a thing in normal psychology. everyone's got reasons.

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    8. crepuscular dispatch‏ @schakalsynthetc 12 Sep 2018
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      it doesn't have to be anything more sophisticated than "he hit me first" or "I was just really really angry" or even just "well, we'd been drinking", but there has to be *something*

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 12 Sep 2018
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      if you hit him because he hit you first, you intended to harm him if you hit him because you were really angry, you intended to harm him nobody hits anybody because they've been drinking, they hit somebody they wanted to hit for reasons that would have been insufficient otherwise

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    10. crepuscular dispatch‏ @schakalsynthetc 12 Sep 2018
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      (well, I, um ... might know some actual iRL counterexaples to "nobody hits anyone bc they'd been drinking and ... idk, just felt like it" but since I already explicitly limited the scope of the comment to *normal* psychology I'll happily conceed they don't really count)

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 12 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @schakalsynthetc @Amusd_onnlookr

      "i'd been drinking and just felt like it" describes a disinhibitor and an intention respectively

      9:10 AM - 12 Sep 2018
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        1. crepuscular dispatch‏ @schakalsynthetc 12 Sep 2018
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          oh, this particular case is a genuine outlier. but generally yeah

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