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    1. simpolism‏ @simpolism 13 Aug 2018
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      It appears you are refusing to compromise on your core value of having no core values.

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    2. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer 13 Aug 2018
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      1/I'm open to compromise on it. But that reminds me of another leg of this rant: what makes values 'core'? It doesn't seem to be that they are the values which are tested most and remain stable -- rather, it often seems that the core values are tested least, or just never tested.

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    3. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer 13 Aug 2018
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      2/So I'm inclined to suspect "core values" are just the values that happen not to have been tested longest in the person's memory. Once the person has incentive to betray the value, they probably will, and then they'll have new core values.

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    4. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto 13 Aug 2018
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      values are incentive-aligned beliefs.

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    5. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto 13 Aug 2018
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      a lot of politics is competition to change incentives in alignment with beliefs, thereby creating values.

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    6. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto 13 Aug 2018
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      it sincerely doesn't help that many beliefs are unfounded bordering on (or sometimes actually) delusional

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    7. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto 13 Aug 2018
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      good governance ought to be incentives aligned in support of true and useful beliefs

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    8. simpolism‏ @simpolism 13 Aug 2018
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      > true and useful my guess is you hold core values of empiricism and efficiency

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    9. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto 13 Aug 2018
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      empiricism is a method, not a value. efficiency is an outcome, not a value. my core values are for truth and utility (contextually limited)

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    10. simpolism‏ @simpolism 13 Aug 2018
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      Empiricism is a system for truth-generation requiring belief, a value of "truth" doesn't have meaning without a truth-generation system attached: this is the end-result of postmodern work. Efficiency is a property of a system & can be optimized for. What even is utility anyway?

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 13 Aug 2018
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      ahh, finally one i can answer utility is that which increases the capacity of a civilization to produce stellar megaproject statues of dinosaurs with lasers on their heads more stellar megaproject statues of dinosaurs with lasers on their heads -> more utility

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        2. simpolism‏ @simpolism 13 Aug 2018
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          if a civilization can build a megaproject statue of a dinosaur with lasers on its head, it can do anything!

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 13 Aug 2018
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          i don't always use logic, but when i do, i like to use logic that cannot possibly be gainsaid

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        2. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto 13 Aug 2018
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          off the charts utility in this drawingpic.twitter.com/HQHrhBDSch

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        3. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto 13 Aug 2018
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          holy shit the TV ads for this one got me so hard when I was a kid (and I never did get to play the game) that here I am like 25 years later STILL pining for this fuckerpic.twitter.com/KylpyRp0Qf

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