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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime 27 Jul 2018
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    the professor who plays at implementing Plato's Republic by telling you the version of the truth which he thinks will make you the most virtuous does not less fancy himself your master than the jackbooted thug

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      1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 27 Jul 2018
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        to freelance philosopher kings as to all kings

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      2. Porous Torus‏ @atthatmatt 27 Jul 2018
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        I'd rather be misled than have my head stomped on. #duh

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 27 Jul 2018
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        and that's how they getcha, innit which one do you think heals faster

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      2. Michael R. Bernstein‏ @nerdworldorder 28 Jul 2018
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        How do you feel about the sort of tactics advocated in "Nudge" by @CassSunstein and @R_Thaler? eg. Changing organ donation default so you have to opt-out rather than opt-in results in many more people choosing to be (presumably more virtuous) organ donors.

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 28 Jul 2018
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        that seems like a lovely idea though it's orthogonal to the question of anybody being virtuous it doesn't involve misrepresenting anything, we can accurately say that our best guess is that after you are dead you will not care what happens to your organs

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      2.  ☠️ john of the dead  ☠️‏ @john_heathen 27 Jul 2018
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        is this what that donna tart novel is about

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 27 Jul 2018
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        fucked if i know

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      2. Thom Ivy  🌿‏ @thom_ivy_1 27 Jul 2018
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        If coercion by our circumstances is unavoidable, shouldn't we want to be coerced in ways that benefit us? Isn't it preferable to be coerced into wellbeing? If true, doesn't negate your point.

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 27 Jul 2018
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        people's ideas about what constitutes wellbeing in another person are somewhat famously disparate with their ideas about what constitutes wellbeing in themselves

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      2. Terrycloth‏ @terrycloth11 27 Jul 2018
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        Your choice is between 'this is what I think is true', 'this is what I hope is true', 'this is what is best for you to believe', and 'this is what is best for me for you to believe', and 'this would make me laugh if you actually bought it'. So the prof. is squarely in the middle.

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 27 Jul 2018
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        though 'this is what is best for you to believe' is basically always 'this is what is best for me for you to believe'

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