maybe you should at least read the SEP article on compatibilism or something before going all "facts don't care about your feelings" on them
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Replying to @gabrielamadej
the SEP article on compatibilism OPENS BY TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S MAKING PROPOSITIONS ABOUT A PROPERTY IT CAN'T COHERENTLY DEFINE and segues into how really we're trying to make moral responsibility i.e. authority to punish compatible with determinism
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Replying to @chaosprime
ok you read like two sentences of it and misread it even at that. 1. moral responsibility doesn't entail that punishment is justified. 2. compatibilism is sometimes expressed as the view that moral responsibility is compatible with determinism, as it states
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Replying to @gabrielamadej @chaosprime
even if we accept such a definition and even if we erroneously believe that entails that punishment is justified, what makes someone capable of moral responsibility reveals interesting facts about agency that go beyond the moral implications of it
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Replying to @gabrielamadej
all of that shit is a lot of song and dance around the fact that we *are going to* exert interference against collections of molecules that are inconvenient to us so we like to make up doctrines that permit us to do so
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Replying to @chaosprime
ok whatever makes you feel better about dismissing large hosts of philosophical work you haven't read
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Replying to @gabrielamadej
i don't have to read everything Piers Anthony has ever written to know that he's crap. if these numbnuts motherfuckers had come up with a usable definition of free will that's neither "casuality but let's pretend" nor acausality you would have brought it up by now tbqf
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Replying to @chaosprime @gabrielamadej
If you tell me you have ever read Chthon while stoned and still believe that first one, I'll take your word for it.
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Replying to @legalinspire @gabrielamadej
it's honestly a coin flip as to whether i've read Chthon at all but i definitely wasn't stoned at the time if i did
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Replying to @chaosprime @gabrielamadej
Then I propose that your assertion, while not proven wrong, lacks key supporting data
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duly noted i'll also freely admit that On A Pale Horse is without qualification a good book and it's a shame he had no idea what made it one
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Replying to @chaosprime @gabrielamadej
For the most part, Anthony is a classic Golden Age writer, as in "The Golden Age of Science Fiction is fourteen." Best example is the "Bio of a Space Tyrant" books. Loved them when I was young. Can't imagine trying to read them now.
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Replying to @legalinspire @gabrielamadej
lol given the polemic throughline of those i definitely see why i appreciated them when i was thirteen and also am pretty sure it was not good for me to be reading them
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