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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16

    Chaos Retweeted Queenie  🐄

    love too have my cyberpunk vidya written by people to whom augmentation is body horror because it profanes the sanctity of the bodyhttps://twitter.com/queer_queenie/status/1007755654142939138 …

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    Queenie  🐄 @queer_queenie
    gonna be honest. this quote from the cyberpunk devs is gross and makes me *very* wary of the game "she is unclean" fucking get your bullshit out of here pic.twitter.com/ezZyC4jZbw
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      2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16

        "there's something wrong with the world" is the heart of punk when punk goes curdled it arrives at "it's the Jews" when cyberpunk goes curdled it arrives at "it's the technology"

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16

        Cyberpunk/CP2020 and Shadowrun's Humanity and Essence were RPG-character-balance driven mechanics that couldn't hope to escape the gravitational pull of culturally ingrained "what if phones but too much" technology panic and were enormous genre-polluting mistakes

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      2. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Granted that I know your biases already. Don't you think it's still interesting to explore the spectrum of possible reactions to transhumanism? Especially in interactive fiction we should see multiple perspectives on core themes.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @danlistensto

        exploring the spectrum sounds nice? exploring "GROG NO MAKE FIRE GROG PLAY GOD" one more time sounds tedious as shit

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime @danlistensto

        some frequencies in the spectrum are hypersaturated

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Ok so cyberpunk is a dead genre then?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @danlistensto

        not at all, i'd just like to see more than the same damn primitivist kneejerk take

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. Marc Whipple - Legal Inspiration!‏ @legalinspire Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime @danlistensto

        have at my dude https://literatureandlatte.com/ 

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @legalinspire @danlistensto

        omg marc whipple did you just "so write your own story sjw" me

        3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. ☉rthnormalist‏ @orthonormalist Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime @legalinspire @danlistensto

        Interjection: I swear this conversation happened days ago. I very distinctly remember it happening. But no...two hours ago. Wtf human brain.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. iconoclasm is bad, m'kay?‏ @red3_standingby Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Dev’s right though. Losing oneself is an integral part of cyberpunk. This game is looking up.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @red3_standingby

        losing yourself is integral, looking down your nose at people losing themselves from a sacralist-primitivist standpoint not so much

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. iconoclasm is bad, m'kay?‏ @red3_standingby Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Looks like the point is that the main character saves her regardless.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @red3_standingby

        yeah saving the unfortunates, very noble, maybe she can be dropped off at the nearest Cyber Magdalene Laundry

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      6. iconoclasm is bad, m'kay?‏ @red3_standingby Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        It is noble. You don’t wash their feet because they’re actually clean, you wash their feet regardless of dirtiness.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @red3_standingby

        the pure unaugmented being intrinsically positioned to wash the feet of the corrupt augmented is what makes this sound more like trenchcoat opera than cyberpunk

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. iconoclasm is bad, m'kay?‏ @red3_standingby Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        If that’s the case then I agree. I thought the main character was chromed up.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @red3_standingby

        prolly is, just relatively uncorrupt compared to this character who needs to be rescued? ugh, probably it's not their fault, likely have to think this way if you're working off the R. Talsorian Cyberpunk RPG license and have to have their awful Humanity/Cyberpsychosis mechanic

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      2. ryan‏ @MisterDiskord Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Wow but that’s literally the point of.. oh never mind

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @MisterDiskord

        is it though

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. ryan‏ @MisterDiskord Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        I mean originally. But now we are in the worst of all possible postmodern bullshit worlds so who knows what cyberpunk even is?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @MisterDiskord

        that's really what you got from Burning Chrome, Neuromancer, Hardwired, Islands in the Net, Schismatrix, Snow Crash? "technology is bad and we should have put a halt to it in favor of maintaining the primitive sense of self as sacrosanct"?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. ryan‏ @MisterDiskord Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        No. I think I was mocking the same people you were originally. I think there’s tension in the sense of definitional humanity but hell if we should stop the world because of it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 16
        Replying to @MisterDiskord

        oh sorry about the misparse. (i had just gotten the take i read you as having in a different reply, lol.) yes please conflict about what it means to be human! no thank you primitivist pearl-clutching!

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. ryan‏ @MisterDiskord Jun 16
        Replying to @chaosprime

        I mean I guess it’s interesting to see meta-takes on cyberpunk 30 years later but I feel like one should at least understand the source before making a hot take....

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