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    1. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jun 11

      In which @ESYudkowsky rediscovers (a piece of) Aristotelian Virtue Ethics: "Don't lie when a normal highly honest person wouldn't..." https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xdwbX9pFEr7Pomaxv/meta-honesty-firming-up-honesty-around-its-edge-cases … "Aristotle's suggestion is not to imitate a specific person, but the theoretical virtuous agent."https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/5v7cvt/virtue_ethics_on_lying_murderer_at_the_door/de0c435/ …

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    2. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur Jun 11
      Replying to @simpolism @ESYudkowsky

      Yudkowsky slowly and badly reinventing millennia-old concepts is so on brand for him

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    3. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jun 11
      Replying to @palecur @ESYudkowsky

      The more historical ideas I learn, the more I see it. And I find it a little depressing, honestly. An intellectual tradition spanning thousands of years is here to engage with, and yet these bright individuals have decided to reinvent the wheel.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 11
      Replying to @simpolism @palecur @ESYudkowsky

      i highly approve of reinventing the wheel because on some level i just don't believe you'll really understand why wheels are the way they are until you've done so, but once you do understand that you should definitely look into known art on the topic

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        2. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jun 11
          Replying to @chaosprime @palecur @ESYudkowsky

          simpolism Retweeted simpolism

          Right, like that quote from Tractatus: https://twitter.com/simpolism/status/999307459419430912 … But, I dunno, I guess I'd personally prefer to search for prior art/works to build on before publishing my own essay about whatever idea I'd come up with.

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          Replying to @chaosprime @VesselOfSpirit and 2 others
          One might say that the magic of philosophy is compressing ideas you already had. See the preface to Wittgenstein's "Tractatus": "This book will perhaps only be understood by those who have themselves already thought the thoughts which are expressed in it—or similar thoughts."
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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 11
          Replying to @simpolism @palecur @ESYudkowsky

          ooh yeah publication before literature search does induce a bit of cringe doesn't it

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        4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 11
          Replying to @chaosprime @simpolism and

          that's why i conduct literature search on my brilliant conceptual innovations by tweeting them out off the cuff and waiting for somebody to tell me "uhm sweatie that's Thales of Miletus"

          2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
        5. Andre‏ @androgynandre Jun 12
          Replying to @chaosprime @simpolism and

          the number of favourites corresponds to the page number, retweets to the line, replies to the volume

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        2. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur Jun 11
          Replying to @chaosprime @simpolism

          i absolutely believe in black-boxing and building on prior art; I in no way want to know how a car works if I know how to *operate* one.

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 11
          Replying to @palecur @simpolism

          absolutely flawless policy as long as none of your abstractions are leaky

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        4. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur Jun 11
          Replying to @chaosprime @simpolism

          spoiler alert: they are not

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        2. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer Jun 11
          Replying to @chaosprime @simpolism and

          1/Learning is reinventing - just faster. An increasing issue with the transmission of culture is the sheer level of noise. This is particularly acute in areas of knowledge that require practice. [I've no doubt, for example, we've lost much of the classical art of rhetoric.]

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        3. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer Jun 11
          Replying to @PereGrimmer @chaosprime @simpolism

          2/there are incentive structures that could help foster the retention and development of practical knowledge & local knowledge. But they are but little developed -- the focus is rather on conferring sheepskins & the appearance of expertise.

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