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Replying to @chaosprime @systemergent
Was/are pair bonds *only* an economic solution? Were they *simply* the equivalent to having two incomes? Could the norm of *commitment* in pair bonding not have served emotional needs, despite incidental or possibly transient disagreements or difficulties?
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Replying to @averykimball @systemergent
i mean, i definitely think it did, but that the needs served must have been served asymmetrically or increased egalitarianism wouldn't be so destructive to it if a behavior fulfills everybody's needs that well people will figure out to do it even without a gun to their heads
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Replying to @chaosprime @systemergent
I'm happy that people aren't bound to bad relationships- but I think a revisiting of the idea of commitment *in this freer, more egalitarian context* might be fruitful. Both men and women may get emotional stability (or something less Folklore Psychology) out of bonding.
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Replying to @averykimball @chaosprime
Yeah "emotional stability" not the best description. Intimacy, love, trust, continuity, shared purpose, some of that jazz
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Replying to @systemergent @averykimball
i have a lot of evidence that one can build those things without either massive social punishment for failing to maintain a stable pairbond or the common usage of "commitment" which is about exclusive genital lockdown!
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Replying to @chaosprime @averykimball
I think you can and those you know can, but a lot can't. Low-openness people, for example.
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Replying to @systemergent @averykimball
yeah, spose that's fair. i guess after working a lifetime to have unusual capabilities i should consider that maybe it worked
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Replying to @chaosprime @averykimball
Contortionists happily contort, number theorists happily theorize, while the bystanders are just scared and confused
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*frightened and bewildered would have sounded better there. Also, thank you for the sustained good faith argufying. A nod in your general direction.
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it is my pleasure, weird sun pal! 
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