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    1. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      I was rewatching Babylon 5 last night, which takes place in 2258. And I can’t stop thinking about how much I thought we’d definitely be out there in space living the sci-fi dream in 200 years when I was a kid watching this, & how now I…kind of think we won’t.

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    2. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      2258 is 237 years from now. 237 years ago was 1781. It is utter madness how much the world has changed. It’s fundamentally not the same world at all, on any level. And mostly on an upward techno-social trajectory. But 237 years from now…I don’t know about that trajectory, man

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    3. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      Obviously part of my job as an SF writer is to imagine this, but when I look at even great SF about that timespan, like 2312, I just don’t know I don’t think the rate of change will stay the same, for one, barring some new development on the level of electricity or steam power

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    4. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      The Nobel Effect does kick in—a lot of the low-hanging techno-fruit has been well and truly made into jam already. I’m not an end of history type, I’m just saying the rate of change from 1781 to now is not a constant. Paradigm shifting discoveries are harder & slower now.

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    5. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      We also now have the ability to completely make ourselves extinct in a very short time frame. Seconds, if we applied ourselves. So you have to take into account that we may not even be around to moan about it in 238 years.

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    6. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      But what gets stuck in my mind is how much technology was inspired or at least predicted by the explosion of science fiction in the 20th century We are so much more aware now of how difficult some of these problems truly are than even 100 years ago, when anything seemed possible

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    7. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      Space is just so much more difficult to manage than we thought before we actually went there. FTL, planetary colonization, & teleportation are honestly deeply unlikely unless we meet aliens or there is a jump in scientific understanding that makes the internet look like a mud hut

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    8. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      And I’m just assuming we do figure out climate change before we burn the planet completely. But that’s a big question mark, & nothing we know right now says we are even close to other planets being a viable solution.

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    9. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      And we can no longer ignore that a whole lot of human don’t want an upward progress trajectory, & will fight to drag it back. That living in a total fantasy is now an entrenched political position. Most of us are having trouble modeling life after a vaccine let alone 238 years

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      Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

      Which is another thing I’ve been circling lately Literature told us since jump that 30-40% of the village is a bunch of id-machines who don’t care about anyone but themselves & love starting shit to feel alive But now we have to deal with that legislatively & we do NOT know how

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        2. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

          It was one thing when Bill the Stonecutter started rolling in plague bodies, making up stories about vampires, & hoarding the good pig guts for himself. It sucked, but it wasn’t a political movement. You could talk to Bill about sucking less if he didn’t just die of stupid.

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        3. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

          But now this madness is a huge number of people with real power & Bill the Stonecutter wants to cut a lot more than that This isn’t going away, the internet isn’t going away, & it’s gonna slow everything up for a good long while You can’t progress if you can’t agree on reality

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        4. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

          If we just make it 200 years, every day life wasn’t nearly as different from 1620 to 1820 as it is from 1820 to 2020. Oh yes, new inventions & nations & wealth, but you would recognize the world if you popped forward Which is where the temporal optimism of space opera comes from

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        5. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

          But I don’t think it’s gonna keep up like that. I think the difference will look way more like 1620 to 1820 than 1820 to 2020. I think we’re heading for a bottleneck partly organic & partly of our own dumbfuck making. Unless aliens or techno-magic.

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        6. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

          I think there’s a bigger change of 2258 looking like Mad Max than Babylon 5. All it takes is a real bad sunspot & we’re twiddling our thumbs for a long time. I wish I didn’t feel that way. I want to believe in the beautiful future. But the present & the past won’t let me.

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        7. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16

          On the other hand, Babylon 5 could envision space travel but not a cell phone or the internet. Our imaginations are always most limited by our assumptions. So maybe the truly inconceivable is on the horizon, fits in your pocket, & I’ve just been stuck inside too long.

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        2. standing_at_the_door‏ @BRWinter Mar 16
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          True. I wonder how much that would change with a real UBI? Are they this way because the “work to survive” cycle has deprived them of a really meaningful lifestyle? Or are they just trolls, and with more spare time and resources they’d just ... do more trolling?

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        3. Catherynne M. Valente‏Verified account @catvalente Mar 16
          Replying to @BRWinter

          Lots of them aren’t working now. They just keep trolling. It’s not about comfort or money. Some of the biggest village jerks were always comfortably middle class. Ask Jane Austen.

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        1. caveman‏ @CAVEMAN Mar 16
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          Solutions to this are the fiction I want to read. The current baby generation when old will likely be far more tolerant than any prior generation if past trends continue, idk what living in that world looks like much less 150 years past that

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