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    1. Marushia Dark‏ @MarushiaDark 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @alienmelon @carolynmichelle

      The price for calling your games art is that, much like other media, you run the risk of the public not liking your experimentation. The best modern artists, for instance, all had classical backgrounds. They knew the rules before they broke them.

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    2. Marushia Dark‏ @MarushiaDark 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MarushiaDark @alienmelon @carolynmichelle

      So while the harassment and threats from #GamerGate are clearly inexcusable, the underlying sentiment was that gamers / comics fans (even many female ones) generally didn't like identity politics being pushed on them or even elevated above overall quality. 🤨

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    3. J Wilhelm‏ @jeremyredhead 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MarushiaDark @alienmelon @carolynmichelle

      a person making a game (that is then, apparently, shown by a third-party to those hostile towards art) is hardly "pushing identity politics"

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    4. Marushia Dark‏ @MarushiaDark 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jeremyredhead @alienmelon @carolynmichelle

      The topic's too broad for tweets, but if you want some examples from the opposing side, go on YT and look up "Diversity Games Suck" or "Diversity in Comics" to see their criticisms. They're like the mirror version of @femfreq.

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    5. Marushia Dark‏ @MarushiaDark 26 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MarushiaDark @jeremyredhead and

      In general, I don't think even so-called anti-feminists or anti-SJWs have an issue with diversity in media, so long as it's done seamlessly and not at the expense of story, gameplay, immersion, or other things. If diversity makes sense in context and arises naturally.

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    6. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MarushiaDark @jeremyredhead and

      As if it's "natural" that so many things feature white men and marginalize other folks. That didn't happen naturally either. That's not apolitical. It's a deeply political reality.

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    7. Marushia Dark‏ @MarushiaDark 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @carolynmichelle @jeremyredhead and

      I mean in the sense that there's a reason for them being a certain way, or at least there not being a reason they can't be. That it's not JUST "we need more representation." So like making Elsa black in medieval Sweden would be a reach, which is why she's white and Tiana's not.

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    8. Marushia Dark‏ @MarushiaDark 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MarushiaDark @carolynmichelle and

      To your point, yes, historically many times they just happen to arbitrarily be white males. But if the only reason you're making Mario black is to make Mario black because we need more black characters ... I can see why people'd take issue with that. It doesn't add anything.

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    9. J Wilhelm‏ @jeremyredhead 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MarushiaDark @carolynmichelle and

      okay, that's taking an established character and changing them, which seems to bother some people. but many others get upset if someone makes like, a game with a black protagonist, b/c "white people are being erased" or whatever, which is just silly

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    10. Marushia Dark‏ @MarushiaDark 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @jeremyredhead @carolynmichelle and

      Can you name an instance in which that's the case? Where it's not otherwise swapping an established character or shoe-horning it in just to appease diversity quotas?

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      Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MarushiaDark @jeremyredhead and

      Again, this whole notion of "diversity quotas" is absurd IMO. For so many white characters, there's no reason why they "need" to be white. Why then do we need to justify creating characters of another race? White is not a neutral, default setting on humanity.

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        2. Marushia Dark‏ @MarushiaDark 27 Nov 2017
          Replying to @carolynmichelle @jeremyredhead and

          And I completely agree with you. Make whatever you want, just make new stuff and make it good. Unlike these:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUaGKxv76Q …

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        3. Marushia Dark‏ @MarushiaDark 27 Nov 2017
          Replying to @MarushiaDark @carolynmichelle and

          White is not a neutral, but white is also not a nothing either. Building up to equality is fine; and I'm not saying that you are guilty of this, but simply recognize that others fear equality means a tearing down to the lowest common denominator: https://marushiadark.wixsite.com/darknessfiles/single-post/2017/11/04/The-Hegelian-Dialectic …

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