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    Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Apr 23

    One of my issues with TFATWS is that IMO the geopolitics and the actual goal of the Flag Smashers are poorly defined to the point of incoherence. I feel like it's because if they were actually given a tangible goal we'd all just go "uhh yeah I mean that sounds pretty good."

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      1. Josh‏ @joshdwoodbury Apr 23
        Replying to @carolynmichelle

        I think the original motive was supposed to involved around a virus plot line, but they decided to write that out after COVID happened obviously.

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      2. Ed‏ @Funk_Barn Apr 23
        Replying to @carolynmichelle

        I think this is an issue with a lot of marvel (and superhero stuff in general). They want to try to do some social commentary, but lack the commitment to really go into depth on anything, so they use buzzwords (i.e. the flag smashers talking about "borders")

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      3. Ed‏ @Funk_Barn Apr 23
        Replying to @Funk_Barn @carolynmichelle

        Another example of this is in Winter Soldier. There's a lot of talk about surveillance, freedom versus security, etc., but there's no discussion of what any of these things mean. It just becomes Cap and friends fighting Hydra in big action set pieces

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      2. Chester Brown‏ @ChesterEugene Apr 23
        Replying to @carolynmichelle

        Isn't it simply the GRC (which is a collection of worldwide governments) displacing people who moved into countries & places other people lived, after the snap, into refugee camps or sending them home, which opposes the open borders that existed during the 5 year blip?

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      3. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Apr 23
        Replying to @ChesterEugene

        I guess that maybe like some other folks I just thought there had to be more to it than that. That seems like a pretty reasonable thing to want.https://www.thewrap.com/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-what-is-flag-smashers-endgame/ …

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      2. Dr. jpiaskowski‏ @SeedsAndBreeds Apr 23
        Replying to @carolynmichelle

        They want to stop "global repatriation" and be allowed to stay where they settled, or at the very least received housing, access to food and housing. It seems pretty clearly laid out in the episodes....am I missing something?

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      3. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Apr 23
        Replying to @SeedsAndBreeds

        I guess maybe I thought there had to be more to it, and others apparently did too. Seems pretty reasonable to me.https://www.thewrap.com/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-what-is-flag-smashers-endgame/ …

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      2. Jeverage‏ @Jeverage Apr 23
        Replying to @carolynmichelle

        IMO the MCU’s most glaring weakness has always been it’s aggressively centrist (or, just as often, blatantly right wing and jingoistic) politics I say that as someone who genuinely loves most of those movies still while acknowledging how fucked they are

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      3. Jeverage‏ @Jeverage Apr 23
        Replying to @Jeverage @carolynmichelle

        But the flag smashers specifically feels like such an unforced error, it’s wild. Like they took the always problematic subtext and just made it text. While still trying not to actually say anything

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      1. Backup Jawa‏ @coredecepts Apr 23
        Replying to @carolynmichelle

        Completely agree. One reason it's hard to figure out is that they don't get to do that much. Most of the time they stand around while the leader gives a speech. The definition of tell don't show.

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