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    1. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Jan 14
      Replying to @carolynmichelle @SirLarr

      ...my appreciation for cinema (or games) overall and really stimulates my thinking. That's far more enjoyable and interesting to me than a bland product evaluation with a sheen of (false) objectivity that just tries to tell me if a thing will pleasantly entertain me for X hours.

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    2. Lawrence Sonntag‏Verified account @SirLarr Jan 14
      Replying to @carolynmichelle

      I totally get it. It's more stimulating for me too. That's not a review though, that's critique. Reviews will have elements of that for sure, but making that the point makes it about what you want (insight) from the review rather than the audience at large (qualified judgment).

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    3. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Jan 14
      Replying to @SirLarr

      Of course it's a review. You can't say Pauline Kael didn't write film reviews. They may be in a style that's not in fashion today, but they are most definitely film reviews.

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    4. Lawrence Sonntag‏Verified account @SirLarr Jan 14
      Replying to @carolynmichelle

      I don't care to argue semantics. I just think the core if it is who you're writing for. You write for yourself and like-minded readers. Nothing wrong with that at all, I just think the focus should be more audience-centric.

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    5. Lawrence Sonntag‏Verified account @SirLarr Jan 14
      Replying to @SirLarr @carolynmichelle

      Also I realize the irony about being semantic after dismissing semantic. More meant to say I'm sure she writes reviews but do you really think that's what the average reader wants out of a review?

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    6. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Jan 14
      Replying to @SirLarr

      Again IDK who this "average reader" is, there are always assumptions made that invariably leave a lot of people out. Pauline Kael was a hugely influential tastemaker in her day. Our notions of what criticism should be may have shifted but that doesn't mean they were wrong before.

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    7. Lawrence Sonntag‏Verified account @SirLarr Jan 14
      Replying to @carolynmichelle

      Hmm, well if you don't know your audience how can you write for them? I'm confident I can break down any game for anyone, let them know if they'll like it in terms they'll understand. And it's not about right or wrong, it's about audience or intent.

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    8. Lawrence Sonntag‏Verified account @SirLarr Jan 14
      Replying to @SirLarr @carolynmichelle

      Luckily both approaches can exist side by side and each serve their relative purposes. To throw it all the way back, I just think Death Stranding very much illustrated the difference in approach.

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    9. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Jan 14
      Replying to @SirLarr

      The biggest problem with this, it seems to me, is that there's usually a group that then gets to have their tastes codified as more or less "objectively right," members of the status quo dominant audience, while those who disagree are wrong for "subjective" reasons.

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    10. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Jan 14
      Replying to @carolynmichelle @SirLarr

      But it's ALL subjective. The Outer Worlds isn't objectively a good or bad game, but I think it's a bad one. Yet the dominant audience's position as dominant accrues political capital--"true" gamers love game X--which can then be leveraged against people of differing viewpoints.

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      Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Jan 15
      Replying to @carolynmichelle @SirLarr

      I think the conversation around games will be much better, more dynamic and stimulating and exciting--when we understand that it's all subjective, and I think getting there will be aided by more critics writing reviews--yes, reviews--that openly embrace their own subjectivity.

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        2. Lawrence Sonntag‏Verified account @SirLarr Jan 15
          Replying to @carolynmichelle

          Yes but most people click on reviews cause they wanna know if a game's good, not for a dynamic and stimulating conversation around games. But I guess that's me assuming about the audience. Seems reasonable when something's called a review though.

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        3. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle Jan 15
          Replying to @SirLarr

          I want to know if the writer thinks the game is good, but I want that to come from their personal viewpoint, not their assumptions about who I am and what I want, and I want an ecosystem in which a wonderful variety of viewpoints are represented.

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