Thought provoked by LRT, and maybe this isn’t cool, that’s why I’m bringing it up, to feel out my own thoughts on it: I don’t think of LGBT+ folks who are comfortable w/the status quo as “queer.” Queer to me suggests a political attitude about life in the world as an LGBT+ person
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not in the slightest. the difference between "gay" and "queer" or even "trans" and "queer" is a world of difference if your homosexuality or your gender identity is precluded on maintaining anything resembling the society we live in now. Pete Buttigieg is gay, not queer.
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Exactly, that was the foremost example in my mind too. Thank you!
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maybe I'm misinterpreting, but I'd have to say that guaging someone's queerness on their ability to performatively discourse in a public manner rather than their choice to tie up their very complex identity in a neat little bow of queer is kind of fucked yeah
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I think you are misinterpreting. I’m talking about the political ideology a person actually holds, not anything performative. But if you think Pete Buttigieg is queer, then you’re not misinterpretating, and we disagree.
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I think I like this...my only thought is when I was very religious, I'd say things like "well that's not a real christian, real christian wouldn't do that." Eventually I read "a christian did it, that's the fact. don't dismiss, fix your community." Does that apply here? idk.
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I made dinner/thought more about this lol (sorry in advance - I know we're not mutuals) I think I disagree with you. 1) I think label policing isn't useful 2) if I don't think of Pete as queer (which I don't) but he calls himself queer, and everyone who likes him hears/uses that
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No, I don't think so. So much of queer culture has been co-opted by capital or white people—even white cis-hets—and I think it's important to be able to distinguish between *that* and the reality of queer people, and especially the most marginalised queer people.
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I don't think anyone who upholds or wishes to uphold the staus quo can fairly call themselves queer, because queerness has primarily and historically meant to undermine the status quo—to change the system—or meant to challenge it at the very least.
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I think I mostly agree with you, but this seems fairly complex to me. So much of the earliest steps of my transition (and honestly, probably more than I want to admit currently) was me desperately trying to cling to the "normalcy" that the status quo represents.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm getting my hands dirty and trying to fight for a better world, but a very big, very loud part of me wants nothing more than to just...float on through life. After all, it can't be that bad, right?
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