shoutout to SNL for reigniting the JOKER debate, and shoutout to me for getting sucked back into it
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I'm also mystified by the argument that JOKER is some sort of principled stand against out of touch late-night comedy elites. I mean have you seen The Hangover films? TP will gleefully make fun of anyone. JOKER is just a story. It doesn't have some clear moral ethic or statement.
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(Which is not the same as saying that it doesn't make meaning. It definitely does. Just, IMO, not the meanings that certain people are ascribing to it.) Also this thread of my own arguments is tiresome to even me. I can't imagine how you, reader of these tweets, must be feeling.
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I’m of the belief that people read so much into it because it’s actually saying so little of value about ANYTHING.
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Arthur gets beaten down, defends himself (then goes beyond that once the threat is gone) and Thomas Wayne says that EVERY poor person is like Arthur, just a clown. This is a great parallell to how the religious right sees poverty as a moral failure and how poor people deserve it
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This sparks a riot, Arthur gets thrown off of the help he needs and starts murdering people he believes have done him wrong. Arthur isn't the social commentary, it's the world for which he lives in that's the commentary. How do you think a revolution starts?
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The film is a social critique. It's making salient points about a callousness in social and economic attitudes. There is social disintegration and services decline. In the UK, those in care were literally released into the streets, resulting in high profile murder cases.
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They had a visible path to that argument - make Fleck’s psychiatrist or another health worker become the Joker after he died by suicide or perhaps was killed by the junior Wayne Corporation execs - but they didn’t see it.
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If the Joker was that woman, told not only to cut loose her most unwell patients by bureaucracy but also to smile when victimized by the larger society, the story might have a real tragedy - a genuine need for change undercut by the human drive for vengeance.
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