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    1. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle 9 Oct 2019

      I once again feel like people talking about art in and of itself and people talking about the cultural impact of art (both valid, worthwhile conversations) are talking past each other. Yes, taken on its own terms, Goodfellas can be seen as a “critique” of the things it depicts.

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    2. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle 9 Oct 2019

      However, I think we’ve all known patriarchal assholes who love that movie, & others like it, and who don’t in any way feel challenged or threatened by what those films say about masculinity. If anything, those men on some level seek to emulate the behavior depicted in those films

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    3. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle 9 Oct 2019

      Perhaps we can say that this is entirely their fault for “not getting it.” But regardless of that, (and this is not me critiquing Goodfellas) *if* we believe that a film like it is meant to function as a critique, then I think, in terms of its cultural impact, it does not succeed

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    4. Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle 9 Oct 2019

      It is possible to tell stories that are legitimately disruptive and challenging to patriarchy and to toxic masculinity. They don’t come around very often though. One way you can recognize them is they tend to make patriarchal men kind of uncomfortable.

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      Carolyn Petit‏Verified account @carolynmichelle 9 Oct 2019

      Carolyn Petit Retweeted BILL RYAN

      Like, can’t we acknowledge that Goodfellas and films like it are not exactly doing wonders for our patriarchal culture without that being equated with calls for censorship?https://twitter.com/faceyouhate/status/1181664830819897345?s=21 …

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      BILL RYAN @faceyouhate
      People are just dying for the Hays Code to come back. pic.twitter.com/jeY8GlQzlQ
      3:36 PM - 9 Oct 2019
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        2. Tinker Tailor Soldier Wooloo‏ @MockWooloo 9 Oct 2019
          Replying to @carolynmichelle

          Scarface is probably an even more blatant one. Yes, you can see it as a parable of how drugs and obsessive ambition destroy his life and everything he cares for, but then you just have all the fanbros shouting "Haha! Say hello to my leetle friend! The world is yours! Awesome!"

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        3. Tinker Tailor Soldier Wooloo‏ @MockWooloo 9 Oct 2019
          Replying to @MockWooloo @carolynmichelle

          And of course the game even has him killing all his enemies at the film's end, and going on to basically become the Badass King of All Crime.

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        2. Jason Morales, Mediocre Tweeter, First of his Name‏ @jasonjmorales 9 Oct 2019
          Replying to @carolynmichelle

          I think a lot of this stuff (especially post south park, which really perfected it) is intentionally crafted to force that argument. You have depiction *cool* enough that people that are into it will be excited, criticism subtle enough you can ignore it if you don't want...

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        3. Jason Morales, Mediocre Tweeter, First of his Name‏ @jasonjmorales 9 Oct 2019
          Replying to @jasonjmorales @carolynmichelle

          ...to see it, and if that *is* what you are looking for you get to feel clever for noticing it. On top of that at least one aspect is tuned in a way to rankle a group that is known to react to things. Makes for a perfect blend of attention and deniability :\

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        1. Jeverett15‏ @jeverett15 9 Oct 2019
          Replying to @carolynmichelle

          The existence of idiots should not be used as a de facto limit on artistic expression.

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