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Historian and human sacrifice enthusiast... [she/her]

Sheffield, England
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    Caroline Dodds Pennock‏ @carolinepennock 2 Dec 2019

    Caroline Dodds Pennock Retweeted Sjoerd Levelt

    This is why it’s not enough to be flippant about ‘Anglo-Saxon’. Actual racists use this stuff to legitimise their views. And it’s why the Forum scholars did NOT ‘form a shield wall’, but actually acknowledged such issues, albeit problematically. (But @thetimes doesn’t do nuance.)https://twitter.com/SLevelt/status/1201531701467533312 …

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    Tom Holland tweets: "Good to see that UK scholars have formed a shield wall against the mad attempt by American cultural imperialists to stop them from using the term 'Anglo-Saxon' as a chronological signifier"; "Mosley Gang" responds as described in tweet
    Sjoerd Levelt @SLevelt
    'everyone knows what an "Anglo-Saxon" is no matter what these nutters try to pretend it is' says *double checks* 'Mosley Gang', agreeing with Tom Holland. pic.twitter.com/geXIX92fO8
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    8:48 AM - 2 Dec 2019
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      2. Tom Holland‏Verified account @holland_tom 2 Dec 2019
        Replying to @carolinepennock @thetimes

        Flippancy is entirely what it merits. The only reason racists in this country might start trying to weaponise ‘Anglo-Saxon’ (as opposed to, say, ‘English’) is if academics persist in telling them it’s racist.

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      3. Caroline Dodds Pennock‏ @carolinepennock 2 Dec 2019
        Replying to @holland_tom @thetimes

        I fear your response also weaponises the debate though. ‘Shield wall’ suggests a response which is utterly dismissive of the important concerns of anti-racist colleagues in a way that the scholars you’re referring to actually were not.

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      1.  🌹 fran‏ @Francheskyia 2 Dec 2019
        Replying to @carolinepennock @thetimes

        I think if the Forum’s statements can be presented in this way, there’s clearly a problem. That statement is a terrible piece of writing that ties itself into rhetorical knots to both deny and accept how the term isn’t accurate and isn’t helpful on many levels.

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      2. Chris Bertram‏ @crookedfootball 3 Dec 2019
        Replying to @carolinepennock @thetimes

        Oddly enough, a French antique dealer asked me "êtes-vous anglo-saxon?" on Saturday. I didn't have the heart to get picky with him.

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      3. Caroline Dodds Pennock‏ @carolinepennock 3 Dec 2019
        Replying to @crookedfootball @thetimes

        I don't think anyone is suggesting that we need to go around correcting French antique dealers... ;-)

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      2. Bob Davis‏ @Rokewood 3 Dec 2019
        Replying to @carolinepennock @thetimes

        But if we cede every term to the Far Right that it has chosen to weaponise, (‘English’), we not only erase a whole lexicon from academic vocabulary, we invite extremists to smell our fear of them & simply extend uncontested the discursive terrain they have arbitrarily annexed

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      3. Caroline Dodds Pennock‏ @carolinepennock 3 Dec 2019
        Replying to @Rokewood @thetimes

        No one has 'erased' the term, or asked for it to be banned (despite the headlines). Colleagues (especially BIPoC colleagues) have asked that we recognise the incredibly problematic history and associations of the term and be conscious and critical of our use of language.

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