Spider sense tells me you want to argue yet another point so you can feel good about winning . . . or just arguing. Maybe is just the arguing that folks get addicted to. Sincerity is what’s lacking here.
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Replying to @cameronshanti3 @antemaal and
I don't think it's fair to say I lack sincerity. I was very open about how I want the collective us to be able to disagree respectfully. For that to happen we need to argue. Argument *can* be constructive when done respectfully, it just seems like people have forgotten how.
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For me your comments cling to argument. There’s some snarky baiting thrown in to fuel argument. Argument is not the same as respectful discussion or creative solution. Especially on Twitter.
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Replying to @cameronshanti3 @antemaal and
You're correct. It is argument bait. Because as I said, I want us to reach a place where we can argue respectfully and be okay with our disagreement. It sounds like you want everyone to agree, and to agree with what you believe. I wish you the best of luck in that endeavor.
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Baiting has no place in clear respectful discussion aimed at solving a collective problem. Baiting is manipulative, controlling, confusing, insincere. Wishing me well for a shady quality you alone assign me is snarky insincerity. You maintain illusion of control in interaction.
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I think the problem that needs to be solved is that we have forgotten how to respectfully disagree. We don't need to solve everything. We just need to stop resorting to violence when we do disagree. Baiting only works if you desire the bait. You can always walk away. Don't bite.
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You just justified disrespectful controlling manipulation - baiting - under the guise of wanting respectful discussion. The manipulator says “you can walk away” to avoid their own complicity in initiating disrespectful discussion. Violence starts with such disrespect, dishonesty.
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Replying to @cameronshanti3 @antemaal and
That's actually a very thoughtful insight and I will consider your point.
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That is great to read. To push a point: I feel you “should” take a stand on the recall, not avoid the issue of recall. Whether or not you are smart on crime, tough on crime, pro reform justice, pro DA’s policies or not. All discussions on his posts are informed by recall issue.
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Replying to @cameronshanti3 @antemaal and
My stance is that there have been too many extenuating circumstances to accurately judge the effectiveness of his policy actions, that a lawful recall process is a valid form of dissent, and that many of Boudin's supporters are dangerous, disruptive, and disrespectful.
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I have opposite opinion. More importantly, I have opposite experience. Need to table this new grueling line of discussion. Might not come back to this for a while if at all. But wishing you well, buddythebird.
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Replying to @cameronshanti3 @antemaal and
Have a great day and stay healthy!
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