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History, archaeology, place-names & early lit. Main research on post-Roman Britain & Anglo-Saxon England; also long-distance trade, migration & contact.

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    Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen Feb 21

    I don't suppose anyone knows who the 'Prince of Mount Lebanon and his retinue' might be who were in St Ives, Cornwall, in 1730? Is this Haydar al-Shihab of the Mount Lebanon Emirate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lebanon_Emirate …), and if so, what was the context? Just curious :)

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      1. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen Feb 21

        For interest, the full reference is as follows: "1730 - Paid for horses to carry the Prince of Mount Lebanon and his retinue.... £1 10s 0d"

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      2. Joshua Landis‏Verified account @joshua_landis Feb 21
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        You need to get @QifaNabki on this. The 1700s is not his specialty but he will surely know whose it is. Interesting bit of history and now we all want to know the history.

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      3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen Feb 21
        Replying to @joshua_landis @QifaNabki

        Thanks! I just stumbled across it in a Georgian account of local parish records but am surprised I can't find any further details...! :)

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      4. Elias Muhanna‏Verified account @QifaNabki Feb 22
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen @joshua_landis

        Andrew Arsan at Cambridge may be able to assist. Or @rain_later? It may have been one of the Shihab amirs, who had relations with the British. The Ma'anids, of course, had Fakhr al-Din, who spent five years living in Italy in the previous century.

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      5. Elias Muhanna‏Verified account @QifaNabki Feb 22
        Replying to @QifaNabki @caitlinrgreen and

        Another person to ask is @Confusezeus

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      6. Nadim Shehadi‏ @Confusezeus Feb 22
        Replying to @QifaNabki @caitlinrgreen and

        Fascinating and have no idea who it could be. Maanids were extinct by then and this was after the battle of Ain Dara. Could of course be any number of 'princes' not necessarily 'the prince' any more clues?

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      7. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen Feb 22
        Replying to @Confusezeus @QifaNabki and

        Thank you both :) I'm afraid the full entry from the town expenses is simply this: "1730 - Paid for horses to carry the Prince of Mount Lebanon and his retinue.... £1 10s 0d" Nothing else recorded, so far as I can tell...

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      8. BenjaminThomasWhite‏ @rain_later Feb 22
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen @Confusezeus and

        Intriguing. Two princes said to be of Mount Lebanon evidently travelled throughout England in the year 1730—there are multiple references in publications in Burney's Collection of C17th/18th Newspapers (@britishlibrary @dan_a_lowe).

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      9. BenjaminThomasWhite‏ @rain_later Feb 22
        Replying to @rain_later @caitlinrgreen and

        Only one entry that I've found actually names them: Universal Spectator and Weekly Journal (London, England), Saturday, August 22, 1730; Issue XCVIII. This calls them 'Joseph Abaisci and John Hanner'.

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      2. Gregoresate‏ @GregorySMcMurry Feb 21
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        Possibly one of the Khazen family? @Extrachelle https://www.khazen.org/index.php/dekhazen/de-khazen-history/3011-origins-of-the-qprince-of-maroniteq-title … They may have been better traveled than the emir back then

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      3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen Feb 21
        Replying to @GregorySMcMurry @Extrachelle

        Interesting! Thanks :-)

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      2. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx‏ @CurlyCrownCelt Feb 21
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        The flag sidebar to the right on that wiki page has slightly different dates for Haydar al-Shihab

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      3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen Feb 21
        Replying to @CurlyCrownCelt

        How curious! The linked source plumps for 1732 as the end of his reign, fwiw.

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      4. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx‏ @CurlyCrownCelt Feb 21
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shihab_dynasty …

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      2. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx‏ @CurlyCrownCelt Feb 21
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        Lol. Curious. Ya right... what's the context for YOUR inquiry? Just curious 😎 No, really. New find?

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      3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen Feb 21
        Replying to @CurlyCrownCelt

        Trying to track down the location of buried chapel on the beach at St Ives & it was mentioned in an early 19thC history of the parish (which sadly doesn't mention the chapel I'm after!) as a 'remarkable entry' in the parish books, which led to me futilely searching for a context!

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      4. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx‏ @CurlyCrownCelt Feb 21
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        I see... Like I say, seems misty, that flag panel on the right of that wiki page has slightly different dates for Haydar al-Shihab.

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