Fwiw, the claimed findspot is the site of a Roman cemetery & another Chinese hu is said to have been found in Rome, whilst a Chinese bronze gu is reported to have been found in a Roman-era shipwreck near Ostia in 1941...
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The Chinese bronze found in Rome, considered by Vessberg to be a genuine Roman-era import.pic.twitter.com/gGqpvsuZ8b
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Green Roman glass cup unearthed from an Eastern Han dynasty (25–220 AD) tomb of Guangxi many items of wares have been found so it would not be so far fetched to surmise that commercial exchange was quite common.pic.twitter.com/NCLNhYecM6
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Indeed, no need to think that only silk came westwards! Thanks for this :)
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Why would someone make it up, though? If the object itself is genuine, why say it was found somewhere it wasn't?
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The person donating it was a friend of Charles Dawson of Piltdown fame, so fraud is not impossible. Though would still be most odd!
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Very interesting, tho if it's the same Henry Willett then he was a prolific collector and founder of significant part of
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Thank you for this! He & his finds are damned by association here, https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LaUnOztbkP4C&lpg=PA95&pg=PA95#v=onepage&q&f=false … (and on previous page), but I do wonder how fair this is and the hu would seem a very odd thing to fake...(Plus there definitely were Roman burials found in the findspot area in the 19thC!)
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Yes, it seems bit mean to damn by association plus I'm now v. curious about the motivations behind collecting and donating by both Willet & Dawson. I'm interested to know more of their relationship- how close was their connection? It would seem odd to try to fake the Hu ...
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Plus I'm often surrounded by less than complete museum documentation, I always wonder how accurate is the original documentation. It's so subject to human error; a location or a donor story interpreted and written down inaccurately at time of donation can become the only source.
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Always intriguing. Tangentially, in Robert Graves, 'I, Claudius' the protagonist gives his grandmother Livia a Chinese
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Oh, maybe! Or the one found in Rome... Certainly seems possible :)
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Donated by Henry Willett who was a friend and collaborator of Charles Dawson, the infamous Piltdown hoaxer (Willet also donated Dawson's petrified "toad in the hole" to Brighton Museum).
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Yes, therein lies the problem and the reason for scepticism! Still, most curious, and am currently reading of a probably genuine example dug up in Rome a few decades later, as well as of a related vessel found on a Roman-era shipwreck near Ostia...?!
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So it remains inconclusive?
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Well, there's two related vessels from Italy, one from Rome that's considered a genuine Roman-era import, and one from a Roman shipwreck, plus it would be a very odd thing to fake... BUT the source of the donation was friends with a faudster :-/ So....!?
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Interesting. Thanks for further details!
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The Sampul Tapestry 山普拉 3rd century BCE to the 4th century CE) and is 48 cm wide and 230 cm long. depicting a Greek soldier and centaur.pic.twitter.com/X7S6K925h6
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A fake? That seems to be what you call something that doesn't fit your established ideas!
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