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Dr Caitlin Green
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Dr Caitlin Green

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History, archaeology, place-names & early lit. Main research on post-Roman Britain & Anglo-Saxon England; also long-distance trade, migration & contact.

Cornwall/Lincolnshire
caitlingreen.org
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    1. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 20 Dec 2017

      In 1400–01, King Henry IV entertained the Byzantine emperor at London "in glorious fashion… lavishing gifts upon him. The King spent Christmas of that year at his palace at Eltham; and with him was the Emperor of Constantinople with his Greek bishops." (Thomas Walsingham)pic.twitter.com/tcgp3zyswP

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      Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 20 Dec 2017

      Fwiw, Byzantine emperors were apparently used to hearing English at Christmas, as said that the Varangian Guard used to wish him "long life in the language of their country, namely English, at the same time clashing their axes with a loud noise" then… http://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/05/medieval-new-england-black-sea.html …pic.twitter.com/JgTCKZEGld

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        1. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 20 Dec 2017

          For more on both episodes, see for example D. M. Nicol, 'England and Byzantium': https://ojs.lib.uom.gr/index.php/BalkanStudies/article/view/1145 …

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        1. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 22 Dec 2017

          A letter written in 1401 by the Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus whilst in England, describing Henry IV as "the King of Britain the Great, of a second civilised world, you might say...": https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AdbgOudLnj4C&lpg=PA102&pg=PA102#v=onepage&q&f=false …pic.twitter.com/vZ2TpqrETo

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        2. (((Garrett Khoury)))‏ @KhouryGarrett 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          This is so cooooool! Who'd have thought? Was there a difference in the English of the Varangians and the English that the Emperor would have heard in 1400?

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        3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @KhouryGarrett

          Good question! Alas, impossible to say, but there may have been some degree of divergence over time :)

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        2. Nigel Hillpaul ن‏ @TheHillpaul 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          By the end in 1453, the VG was comprised mainly of Cretan archers

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        3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @TheHillpaul

          Yes, so I gather. The VG a rather different beast by then, I fear!

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        2. Ilias (Lou) Bougias‏ @iliasofjohn 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          Fantastic. Thank you Caitlin

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        3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @iliasofjohn

          My pleasure :)

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        2. Chewed Frog‏ @IHateStapler 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          The varangians spoke English?

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        3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @IHateStapler

          Yep :) See http://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/05/medieval-new-england-black-sea.html …

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        2. Left Peggers‏ @LeftPeggers 22 Dec 2017
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          I thought the Varangian were Norsemen, maybe via Kievan Rus etc?

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        3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 22 Dec 2017
          Replying to @LeftPeggers

          Only at first; from late 11thC a sizeable English component :)

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        4. Left Peggers‏ @LeftPeggers 22 Dec 2017
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          Thanks for clarifying,

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        2. Lynn‏ @thereallajones 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          An antecedent: in the 11th C, Edward the Confessor was buried wearing a Byz enkolpia of the True Cross.https://www.academia.edu/2127281/From_Anglorum_basileus_to_Norman_Saint_The_Transformation_of_Edward_the_Confessor …

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        3. Grant Jones‏ @grantosjones 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @thereallajones @caitlinrgreen

          I wonder if Henry III knew? He would have loved a piece of the True Cross to put him on par with St. Louis... surprised he didn't snaffle it when he translated Edward in 1269!

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        4. Lynn‏ @thereallajones 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @grantosjones @caitlinrgreen

          That's when the ring was removed--the stone is now in the Victoria Crown (supposedly). They didn't find the enkolpia because it was under all the wrappings. James II took it when it was discovered, but dropped it in the Thames as he was fleeing. Pepys saw it!

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        5. Grant Jones‏ @grantosjones 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @thereallajones @caitlinrgreen

          Whaaaat!? Sad that it ended up in the Thames, but what a dramatic way for it to go!

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        2. Andrew D. Buck‏ @andrewdbuck 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          By this point weren't the Varangians all 'Russian' or elsewhere? Almost certainly no Anglo-Saxons anymore, at least

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        3. Peter Frankopan‏Verified account @peterfrankopan 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @andrewdbuck @caitlinrgreen

          Other way round. Big boost of English soldiers in the late 11th spells end for Rus’ and Scandinavians. #Varangians broadly unimportant from mid-12th...

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        4. Andrew D. Buck‏ @andrewdbuck 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @peterfrankopan @caitlinrgreen

          That's the answer I was looking for! I blame the Kolsch...

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        5. Peter Frankopan‏Verified account @peterfrankopan 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @andrewdbuck @caitlinrgreen

          Know the feeling !

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