The axe & stirrups from the female Viking warrior burial (grave Bj 581) at Birka, Sweden: http://mis.historiska.se/mis/sok/bild.asp?uid=331954 … & http://mis.historiska.se/mis/sok/fid.asp?fid=561205 …pic.twitter.com/UF9AaUp3mo
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Incidentally, needs to be emphasized here that is possible to be too sceptical, & some criticisms not necessarily wholly fair. Definitely >
> potential for caveats+cautions that aren't fully developed in paper, but strikes me we're long way from 'debunking', contrary to some… >
> My take, fwiw, is that seems reasonable to believe remains *are* those of Bj 581, reading supp data, & scepticism not really justified. >
> Likewise, authors do a valuable service in removing the traditional 'the osteologists must be wrong' objection to female weapons burials.>
> And finally, authors make important point that 'Male individuals in burials w/ a similar material record are not questioned in the same >
> way' & 'interpretation should be made in a similar manner regardless of the biological sex of the interred individual'. >
> In my view, it's a fascinating paper; caveats possible+important to note re: exact interpretation (see above), but it is worth defending.
In sum, I don't have major issue w/ paper, I don't think you should either, & some critiques go too far; see alsohttps://twitter.com/preshitorian/status/907186879656873986 …
Essentially, amount of scepticism we exhibit over interpreting 581 as a warrior should be similar to that which we'd show if they were XY :)
Before I read Jesch's blog my question was about of fighting musculature evidence on bone so I was a bit sceptical already tbh. Now 50/50
I hunk there could usefully have been discussion of his, but again perhaps isn't a clinching argument unless obv low? I suspect we should >
> just about as sceptical of the 'warrior' interpretation as we would be if the burial had turned out genetically male ;)
Original article states there are no typically feminine objects in grave. None. This has to have been done on purpose? This absence may be..
just as important as what is there. Emphasising the incumbent is exactly like the male counterparts, an effort to ensure there is no...
discrimination between her grave & others. Implies the woman is viewed as much of a warrior by those who buried her as the other male...
deceased. Her compatriots emphasising a non dicriminatory point in her chosen grave gds which ppl today should mirror in assessing these...
remains. A warriors grave like any other on the understanding that a warriors grave did not necessarily a warrior make. Though if female...
"All bone elements have at one time been marked with the text 'Bj 581' in ink" ....
Thanks for that. Fascinating read.
It surely is interesting. I am also wondering if it could have been something similar to the Albanian burrnesha. It'd explain a few things.
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