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Dr Caitlin Green
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Dr Caitlin Green

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History, archaeology, place-names & early lit. Main research on post-Roman Britain & Anglo-Saxon England; also long-distance trade, migration & contact.

Cornwall/Lincolnshire
caitlingreen.org
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    1. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 13 Dec 2015
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen

      @holland_tom > English rulers to justify ambitions in L12/E13thC & 16thC etc... & when challenged by Polydore V in 16thC it was vigorously >

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    2. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 13 Dec 2015
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen

      @holland_tom >defended by English writers, incl John Dee who accused Polydore of burning cartload of 'proofs' of Geoffrey's vers of history!

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    3. Tom Holland‏Verified account @holland_tom 13 Dec 2015
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen

      @caitlinrgreen There's good reason, though, why it's the Matter of Britain, not of England. Geoffrey's last line laments Æthelstan's reign.

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    4. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 13 Dec 2015
      Replying to @holland_tom

      @holland_tom So it is about definitions! ;) They have to be writing about the Anglo-Saxons & be pro-Anglo-Saxon...! >

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    5. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 13 Dec 2015
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen

      @holland_tom > But Medieval English history not so neat ;) See the most popular vernacular history, the 15thC Middle English Brut: runs >

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    6. Tom Holland‏Verified account @holland_tom 13 Dec 2015
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen

      @caitlinrgreen Yes, all identity is fluid, blah blah, but Geoffrey is self-consciously writing a history that is not English. That's his gig

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    7. Tom Holland‏Verified account @holland_tom 13 Dec 2015
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      @caitlinrgreen I think, in that context, it's as perverse to define him as English as it would be to define Bede as Welsh.

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    8. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 13 Dec 2015
      Replying to @holland_tom

      @holland_tom I think you have a very restrictive definition here, lol! There's no solid evidence for Geoffrey's origins, he wrote in Latin >

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    9. Tom Holland‏Verified account @holland_tom 13 Dec 2015
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen

      @caitlinrgreen Only because the period in which he is writing is crucial to the development of English/Welsh/British identity.

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    10. Tom Holland‏Verified account @holland_tom 13 Dec 2015
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      @caitlinrgreen It's precisely the period when English/Welsh identity IS becoming more restrictive - & Geoffrey's important in that process.

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      Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 13 Dec 2015
      Replying to @holland_tom

      @holland_tom Yes and no---*if* Harke et al right, then v much more restrictive in pre-Viking era. But again, it's a definition thing-- >

      4:16 AM - 13 Dec 2015
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        2. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 13 Dec 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          @holland_tom > If you only want ppl who have a pro-English outlook & write about the English, then he doesn't fit...

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        3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 13 Dec 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          @holland_tom ...but he is clearly a great, vastly influential historian working in England whose work was defended as true English history >

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