@holland_tom Hmm *looks sceptically at you* But Geoffrey's version of history--Brutus, Arthur etc--rapidly became part of the definitive >
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@holland_tom > medieval ver of 'our island story' for hundreds of yrs, incorporated into Anglo-Norman+Middle English Bruts, & was used by >2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@holland_tom > English rulers to justify ambitions in L12/E13thC & 16thC etc... & when challenged by Polydore V in 16thC it was vigorously >1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@holland_tom >defended by English writers, incl John Dee who accused Polydore of burning cartload of 'proofs' of Geoffrey's vers of history!1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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@caitlinrgreen There's good reason, though, why it's the Matter of Britain, not of England. Geoffrey's last line laments Æthelstan's reign.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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@holland_tom So it is about definitions! ;) They have to be writing about the Anglo-Saxons & be pro-Anglo-Saxon...! >1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@holland_tom > But Medieval English history not so neat ;) See the most popular vernacular history, the 15thC Middle English Brut: runs >2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@caitlinrgreen Yes, all identity is fluid, blah blah, but Geoffrey is self-consciously writing a history that is not English. That's his gig1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@caitlinrgreen I think, in that context, it's as perverse to define him as English as it would be to define Bede as Welsh.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@holland_tom > prob at Oxford, and had a massive impact on the standard English histories, with his version being used & defended by >1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@holland_tom > English royalty and historians through to 16thC! But I may be feeling argumentative due to noise of children's party! ;)
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