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Dr Caitlin Green
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Dr Caitlin Green

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History, archaeology, place-names & early lit. Main research on post-Roman Britain & Anglo-Saxon England; also long-distance trade, migration & contact.

Cornwall/Lincolnshire
caitlingreen.org
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    1. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 13 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ballandalus

      .@Ballandalus @caitlinrgreen Rum was not limited to Byzantines, e.g: Italians were Rum (Source R Dozy), & Rus in pragraph 10 were Rum. 1/2

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    2. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 13 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

      .@Ballandalus @caitlinrgreen in old sources, Rum (Singular: Rumi) was, in most of cases, equivalent to Europeans, without specification. 2/2

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    3. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 15 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

      .@Ballandalus @caitlinrgreen another evidence is from Al-Maqrizi in his book: Al-Selouk mentioned a Frankish merchant settled in Egypt & >

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    4. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 15 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

      .@Ballandalus @caitlinrgreen> converted to Islam & adopted Turkish name Aq-Sunqur (Means:White Falcon) & became known as Aq-Sunqur Al-Rumi.>

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    5. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 15 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

      .@Ballandalus @caitlinrgreen >Now you have 3 evidences that words Rum & Rumi, used to describe Europeans & European, w/out specification & >

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    6. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 15 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

      @Archatgs @Ballandalus Oddly, reminds me that is an island in Hebrides called Rum, poss Proto-Semitic/Phoenician name cf. Ramallah/Ramat Gan

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    7. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 15 Sep 2015
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen

      .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus Rum is mentioned in Quran; there's Sura (Chapter) by this name, Nr. 30, & it named after Byzantines.

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    8. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 15 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

      .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus but the usage of word Rum, applied on Europeans, without specification. as general name for Europeans in the,>

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    9. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 15 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

      .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus >Middle ages. NB: Med. Sea in Middle Ages its name was: Baher Al-Rum ( Rum's Sea) ; While Baltic Sea its name>

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    10. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 15 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

      .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus was Baher Al-Frinjah ( Varangian Sea).

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      Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 16 Sep 2015
      Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

      @Archatgs @Ballandalus The Sea of Azov was similarly described on a 12thC Syrian map...

      9:13 AM - 16 Sep 2015
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        2. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus NB: Al-Frinjah الفرنجة in Arabic is one word for :Franks, Varangians, Western Europeans specially French, so>

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        3. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus>the differentiation comes from reading the context carefully, eg: Medieval Arab historians usually used word>

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        4. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus> Al-Frinjah الفرنجة when they wrote about the Crusaders. It is so elastic expression as: Rum.

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        5. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus >you can see in the example I gave yesterday, I mean Aq-Sunqur Al-Rumi, he was described before his conversion>

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        6. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus>to Islam as: Frinji, & after his conversion he became: Al-Rumi, & both indicate he is European in origin.>

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        7. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus So when you read Al-Frinji, Al-Frinjah,Rum, Al-Rumi, read the context carefully & don't go to automatic meaning

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus From above I say: Author of the Hudūd al-’Ālam (Paragraph 32) didn't consider Britain (al-Baritiniya) to be a>

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        9. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus>part of the Byzantine realm when he wrote: “[it is] the last land of Rum on the coast of the Ocean, but>

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        2. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus I found that name in book :The Thirteenth tribe, by: Arthur Koestler; Chapter: 3, his references: J.B. Bury &>

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        3. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus> & A. Toynbee. I can give you the names of the references, of the 2 authors what Koestler used in his book. I >

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        4. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @Ahmed_Aloirati

          .@caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus> I know the theory of 13 tribes are not accepted now, but our issue now is Baher Al-Frinjah.

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        1. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          @caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus Do you have any map else has another name for Baltic sea?

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        1. Ahmed Aloirati‏ @Ahmed_Aloirati 16 Sep 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          @caitlinrgreen @Ballandalus I am checking my sources right now.

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