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Dr Caitlin Green
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Dr Caitlin Green

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History, archaeology, place-names & early lit. Main research on post-Roman Britain & Anglo-Saxon England; also long-distance trade, migration & contact.

Cornwall/Lincolnshire
caitlingreen.org
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    1. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015

      For anyone still interested in the new DNA study, worth noting that despite issues, are a couple of interesting things to note. Perhaps >

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      Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015

      > most important effects are on these papers by Härke & the theory expounded there: https://www.academia.edu/1178275/Anglo-Saxon_immigration_and_ethnogenesis._Medieval_Archaeology_55_2011._1-28 … & https://www.academia.edu/468159/Evidence_for_an_apartheid-like_social_structure_in_early_Anglo-Saxon_England._Proceedings_of_the_Royal_Society_B_273_July_2006_2651-2657 …. >

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        2. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          > First, data in new study suggests the Anglo-Saxons *didn't intermarry with the Britons until the 9thC*! (p.313+supplementary material) >

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        3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          > In other words, this new data seems to support the Härke/Woolf model of an "apartheid-like social structure" in pre-Viking England. >

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        4. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          Second, data halves size of supposed post-Roman 'Germanic' contribution to modern DNA, so significantly reduces the proportion that AS >

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        5. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          > immigrants needed to provide in 5/6thC compared to what Härke assumed, so AS immigrants perhaps numbered only 5% or less of total popn in>

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        6. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          > the 5/6thC in S/Central England, assuming 'apartheid-like' system operated to 9thC, as new study implies. So, in sum, if you were >

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        7. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          > inclined to agree w/ Härke/Woolf, then new study offers support. It's not making massive changes, but is adding weight to prev studies.

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        8. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          (Which is not to say doesn't still have signif issues & relies on assumptions etc, as said before, but above = the more positive take, lol!)

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        2. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          Btw: really odd thing? New study doesn't mention previous work by Härke et al at all...v weird (this also=source of some of issues w/ paper)

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        3. Vox Hiberionacum‏ @VoxHib 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          @caitlinrgreen *academics in academic snub shocker* ;)

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        4. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @VoxHib

          @VoxHiberionacum Hah! Except is a signif gap, as those papers argue that Mod DNA % can't correlate to size of immigraiton-event, thus >

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        5. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          @VoxHiberionacum > significantly undermining notion that their figures are reliable guides to history :/ Also, papers support their >

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        6. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          @VoxHiberionacum > idea of a signif time period before major intermarriage... So absence odd & adds to sense that this was done by ppl not >

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        7. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          @VoxHiberionacum > entirely familiar w/ recent scholarship on post-Roman period (I'd expect peer-review to pick up, but hey...!)

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        8. Vox Hiberionacum‏ @VoxHib 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @caitlinrgreen

          @caitlinrgreen (Maybe they took a look at new Vikings and had 2nd thoughts ;) [V. interesting conservative regionality/movements though].

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        9. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 19 Mar 2015
          Replying to @VoxHib

          @VoxHiberionacum Yes, that aspect is intriguing--though am I alone in wishing they had data from rest of Ireland?! Feels incomplete without!

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        1. Horsa‏ @HorseyRhymes 19 Mar 2015
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          @caitlinrgreen That is fascinating. Thank you very much for sharing it.

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