For anyone still interested in the new DNA study, worth noting that despite issues, are a couple of interesting things to note. Perhaps >
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> First, data in new study suggests the Anglo-Saxons *didn't intermarry with the Britons until the 9thC*! (p.313+supplementary material) >
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> In other words, this new data seems to support the Härke/Woolf model of an "apartheid-like social structure" in pre-Viking England. >
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Second, data halves size of supposed post-Roman 'Germanic' contribution to modern DNA, so significantly reduces the proportion that AS >
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> immigrants needed to provide in 5/6thC compared to what Härke assumed, so AS immigrants perhaps numbered only 5% or less of total popn in>
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> the 5/6thC in S/Central England, assuming 'apartheid-like' system operated to 9thC, as new study implies. So, in sum, if you were >
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> inclined to agree w/ Härke/Woolf, then new study offers support. It's not making massive changes, but is adding weight to prev studies.
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(Which is not to say doesn't still have signif issues & relies on assumptions etc, as said before, but above = the more positive take, lol!)
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Btw: really odd thing? New study doesn't mention previous work by Härke et al at all...v weird (this also=source of some of issues w/ paper)
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@caitlinrgreen *academics in academic snub shocker* ;) -
@VoxHiberionacum Hah! Except is a signif gap, as those papers argue that Mod DNA % can't correlate to size of immigraiton-event, thus >
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@VoxHiberionacum > significantly undermining notion that their figures are reliable guides to history :/ Also, papers support their >
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@VoxHiberionacum > idea of a signif time period before major intermarriage... So absence odd & adds to sense that this was done by ppl not >
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@VoxHiberionacum > entirely familiar w/ recent scholarship on post-Roman period (I'd expect peer-review to pick up, but hey...!)
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@caitlinrgreen (Maybe they took a look at new Vikings and had 2nd thoughts ;) [V. interesting conservative regionality/movements though]. -
@VoxHiberionacum Yes, that aspect is intriguing--though am I alone in wishing they had data from rest of Ireland?! Feels incomplete without!
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@caitlinrgreen That is fascinating. Thank you very much for sharing it.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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