Place-name evidence for Taflas/Taifali as distinct group in 'Anglo-Saxon' Lincolnshire is, of course, interesting in itself...
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> Elvecones possibly at Elm, and Bede of course mentions Huns in 'Anglo-Saxon England' in Bk 5! Latter esp interesting as Priscus in 5thC >
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> says Attila claimed domain over islands in the Ocean ;) Taifali add to this sense of a more complicated post-Roman situation, esp as >
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> often described as an "Asiatic", nomadic people....
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Have to say, do find Bede's claim that the Huns were involved especially intriguing...!
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Re: the Huns as ancestors of the 8thC Anglo-Saxons, has been argued that Bede clearly intended it read this way and he lists the Huns >
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> in his second list (HE V.9) immediately before the Saxons, and in this context the Priscus comment that Attila ruled to the islands in >
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> the ocean is most intriguing... On the other hand, has been suggested that perhaps Bede using Huns as general shorthand for non-Germanic,>
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> "Asiatic" peoples who played a part in the adventus? If so, has been suggested Alans may be meant, altho' Taifali is another option too!
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@caitlinrgreen Frankish 'boots on the ground' in Kent, rather than just the trading links & artistic/cultural influence already known about? -
@Harry_cartoons Hmm, going to say tentative 'yes', not least because early law codes and Procopius imply degree of Frankish control there... -
@caitlinrgreen That opens a can of worms. Bede writes of early Jutish presence in Kent so it's certainly a complex picture, but fascinating! -
@Harry_cartoons it does indeed---Ian Wood has written some very important pieces that discuss this :) -
@caitlinrgreen Where can I see them? -
@Harry_cartoons Procopis mentions 6thC Frankish claim to overlordship in Wars, VIII.xx.10... Woods & law codes, see Wood's essay on > -
@Harry_cartoons > "Frankish hegemony in England" in Carver (ed.) Age of Sutton Hoo, Woodbridge 1992 :) -
@caitlinrgreen Thanks! I take it that is Martin Carver who I have read in the past, and is very good on East Anglia. - 6 more replies
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@caitlinrgreen Southern Germans in East Anglia? -
@irrpfad Swaffham in Norfolk+Cambs means "estate of the Suevi" :) -
@caitlinrgreen Swaffham then one of a very small number of scattered communities of Suevi? -
@irrpfad Yes, probably best way to look at it---names are prob early, perhaps have origins in 5/6thC :) -
@caitlinrgreen Thanks to ur posts I've been trying to bone up on this. It intrigues me as I lived for a while in "Alemannia" ie modern Baden
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