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Dr Caitlin Green
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Dr Caitlin Green

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History, archaeology, place-names & early lit. Main research on post-Roman Britain & Anglo-Saxon England; also long-distance trade, migration & contact.

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    Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015

    Supposed "Irish saints" in Cornwall=intriguing--eg. is St Ia "otherwise unknown" Irish saint, or 4thC Persian St Ia?!pic.twitter.com/MJPOyZnOlK

    3:27 AM - 9 Feb 2015
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      2. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        Cult of St Ia popular in early Byzantine period w/ church at Constantinople, so why not look for her there given 5-6thC imports to Cornwall?

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        Indeed, church of St Ia at Constantinople restored by Justinian I, who ruled at time Byzantine pottery was being exported to Cornwall...

        1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
      4. Fr. Stephen‏ @T3_Stephen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @caitlinrgreen would imagine there would have been ore and metals going the other way, long history of naturalising religious figures

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @T3_Stephen

        @T3_Stephen yes, definitely looking for the tin! And indeed, just find bit worrying hardly anyone notices that St Ia is major Byz saint too!

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Fr. Stephen‏ @T3_Stephen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @caitlinrgreen I have a book sitting next me which may have something in it, how odd.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @T3_Stephen

        @T3_Stephen ooh, interesting---only one I've yet seen=Ken Dark's volume, otherwise ppl largely just go "otherwise unknown Irish Saint" etc!

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      2. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        Late legends of St Ia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ia_of_Cornwall … Image of St Ia's well, St Ives, Cornwall here:http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showpic&pid=24069 …

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Catherine Street‏ @CatherineEsse 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @caitlinrgreen ah, I saw this on my visit in Nov! :) without realising much of the significance of it

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @CatherineEsse

        @CatherineEsse it's not the most interesting Cornish holy well, has to be admitted!

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Vox Hiberionacum‏ @VoxHib 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @caitlinrgreen Have to defend my turf! ;) Numbers of 5/6thC ogam stones in Cornwall showing Irish settlement/cult influence...

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @VoxHib

        @VoxHiberionacum lol! Well, of course ;) I suppose my issue is that the stories are v late and read more like tales invented to explain a >

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      4. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @VoxHiberionacum > name than anything else. And whilst def Irish influences, imports & their distribution suggest deliberate post-Roman >

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      5. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @VoxHiberionacum > adopted Romanitas in 5/6thC Dumnonia to me... On name, Padel seems fairly clear Cornish form is Ia/Ya, and the 'v' is >

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      6. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @VoxHiberionacum > "non-original" in his view... Otoh, if a clear Irish etymology for Ia available, then might be convinced! ;) Question >

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      7. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @VoxHiberionacum > is, is there a 5thC reconstructed Irish form that would regularly become Cornish Ya via normal sound changes a la >

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      8. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @VoxHiberionacum > Jackson/Sims-Williams etc, or are we relying on "corruption"? The former would be interesting, the latter less so! ;)

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      9. Vox Hiberionacum‏ @VoxHib 9 Feb 2015
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen

        @caitlinrgreen 'iva' as name form attested ogam stones in Leinster from a v. early church ident with women founders http://ogham.celt.dias.ie/stone.php?lang=en&site=National_Museum&stone=19._Colbinstown_I …

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      2. Philolithia‏ @Philolithia 22 Jul 2016
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen @DorothyKing

        very interesting — can you say any more about the story of the 4thC Persian St Ia?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Dorothy‏ @DLVLK 22 Jul 2016
        Replying to @Philolithia @caitlinrgreen

        follow the thread under that Tweet - she does!

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Philolithia‏ @Philolithia 22 Jul 2016
        Replying to @DLVLK @DorothyKing @caitlinrgreen

        Sorry missed it, thanks v. much :-)

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      5. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 22 Jul 2016
        Replying to @Philolithia @DorothyKing

        It's on my mental list of topics to post some more on too, will try to remember to do this! :)

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Philolithia‏ @Philolithia 22 Jul 2016
        Replying to @caitlinrgreen @DorothyKing

        Look forward to it. Esp if it's not too mad for you to consider any connections between Culdees & Chaldeas? :-)

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