Words mean things. If you know the connotations and context of how the word is used, and you still identify as one, you are probably a creep.
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Replying to @Iesbiandroid @ultradesert and
Yeah not the least bit close minded for you to determine how people define themselves. So no they/them for you?
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Replying to @TygerBrahe @MrPetovan and
oh my god that's an incredible strawman. thank you for this gift.
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Replying to @Iesbiandroid @ultradesert and
we all understand any self identified group gets to call themselves. For you to label all incels as creeps is incredibly ignorant.
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Replying to @TygerBrahe @ultradesert and
And every group of incels on social media have a similar vibe. It’s the friend zone ‘good guy’ culture taken to the extreme. There may be a hypothetical incel that is not a hateful entitled misogynist, but they certainly don’t pop up in the incel groups.
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Replying to @YappaPodcast @TygerBrahe and
I’m sure there are people that identify as white nationalists that are not in favour of an ethnostate, actually is fine with non white people, inter racial dating and marriage, and basically is just proud of his country. That doesn’t change what white nationalist means.
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Replying to @YappaPodcast @TygerBrahe and
If you’re willing to claim an identity, join a group, and be an avowed member of that group, the primary focus of that group goes with it. This isn’t a case of bad apples spoiling the bunch. The primary mission statement of incels is complaining about how they are owed sex.
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Replying to @YappaPodcast @ultradesert and
You don't get to define the name people use on themselves. There might be incels who had not heard the word but adopt it w/o adopting the undesirable aspects. It's bigoted of you to suggest they are all misogynists.
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Replying to @TygerBrahe @YappaPodcast and
That is like arguing you should not condemn people who call themselves Nazis because "maybe they're just socialists who really like their country, right?"
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Replying to @caffeine_eric @YappaPodcast and
That's a stupid argument. An incels is an involuntary celibate. While there are misogynist incels that is an obligatory characteristic of an incel. So while racial discrimination is inherent to Nazis, we can find incels who simply can't get laid.
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You are trying to re-co-opt 'incel' back to a broader meaning. This is pointless, diversionary, and either disingenuous or ignorant. Incel is not simply an abbreviation; it is a self-assigned group label for a specific ideology. Not all involuntary celibates are incels.
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Replying to @caffeine_eric @YappaPodcast and
You are ignorant about the ways language expands. In fact the stupidity of your argument is right there in your post "re-co-opt" which means by your own admission you know that incels are not what you claim they are.
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Replying to @TygerBrahe @YappaPodcast and
Wait, so because I know that 'incel' *used* to mean something different, I'm hypocritical in not accepting your assertion that it has now changed again? That's a logical fallacy on your part, not confusion on mine.
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