@cabel actually yes if the existing connector is 100 years old & theres no good 3rd party options.
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@westy2018 What's the deal with "it's 100 years old". Electricity is 100 years old. -
@cabel lithium polymer batteries are very new -
@westy2018 I see your point. But I'll tell you what courage would be: opening up the patents and designs on the Lightning connector for free - View other replies
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@cabel Apple is still a business listed on the stock exchange - View other replies
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@westy2018 The idea that their stock would plummet if they loosened their grip on Lightning is preposterous! Preposterous I say! -
@cabel their stock doesn’t need to plummet. They just don’t need to leave obvious money on the table. -
@westy2018 Holy lord. How much money does Apple need at this point? Infinity? Come on man.
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@cabel theyre going to get burned for “courage” but I think the idea is “want wired? do it this way. but you’re better off going wireless” -
@acordova Feels weird to then include lightning headphones in the box? Maybe? - View other replies
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@cabel I am surprised they are giving the adapter in the box, but more because it’s not “Apple-like.” Right call. -
@acordova Correct. That was a welcome surprise.
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@cabel His courage comment was referring to wireless, not Lightning. -
@Macrike Why include lightning headphones in the box then? Courage ran out?
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@cabel Because including wireless earphones would have increased the cost and price of the phone for little benefit. -
@Macrike So courage has a cost limit?!
Ignore me. 
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@cabel Was removal of floppy drive courage? -
@macguitar Yeah, for sure. And there were so many alternatives to transferring files: downloads, email, flash drives, cd-r's, etc. - Show more
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