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    1. Adam B. Levine‏ @GamerAndy Feb 25

      Let's Talk #Bitcoin Episode #357 is OUT! Featuring @starkness talking the now and future Lightning Network with myself and @aantonophttps://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-357-real-lightning-with-elizabeth-stark …

      5 replies 97 retweets 247 likes
    2. ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Feb 25
      Replying to @GamerAndy @starkness @aantonop

      great looking forward to listening to that episode. btw, have you seen @Falkvinge’s critique of the #LightningNetwork? it would be great if you can have him on the show to discuss, or at least address the ROUTING problem he keeps pointing athttps://youtu.be/Ug8NH67_EfE 

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    3. Adam B. Levine‏ @GamerAndy Feb 25
      Replying to @c4chaos @starkness and

      I'd like to get him on the show, haven't yet figured out how to get a response from him though. I've watched all his recent critiques and while he has some points, the presentation is so hyperbolic as to make it difficult to separate what's real from what's "outrage"

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Feb 25
      Replying to @GamerAndy @starkness and

      cool. yeah, i too would like to tease out the hyperbolic from the technical stuff. just the facts! but i think Rick @Falkvinge makes a good point about the ROUTING problem. i hope Rick responds to your invitation 😎👍

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        2. Adam B. Levine‏ @GamerAndy Feb 25
          Replying to @c4chaos @starkness and

          I said almost exactly the same thing to Elizabeth Stark earlier today. The whitepaper for lightning was written years ago so ricks huffing and puffing about lack of detail on routing isn't the question, the relevant question is what is current state of the research.

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        3. elizabeth stark‏ @starkness Feb 25
          Replying to @GamerAndy @c4chaos @aantonop

          It's a lot easier to make up imaginary problems than to build real technology and solve real problems. 🙃

          4 replies 2 retweets 32 likes
        4. Adam B. Levine‏ @GamerAndy Feb 25
          Replying to @starkness @c4chaos @aantonop

          Seriously.

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        5. ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Feb 25
          Replying to @GamerAndy @starkness @aantonop

          just finished listening to the latest LTB episode on #Lightning. good to know that there are lots of developers excited to push it forward. the comparison with Ethereum dev community is apt. let’s just hope Lightning goes beyond ICOs and Cryptokitties 😎 bring on layer 3 🚀

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        6. Brad Mills‏ @bradmillscan Feb 25
          Replying to @c4chaos @GamerAndy and

          Rick's argument is built on the assertion that LN is being sold as a payment routing engine & that it's key innovation is path discovery. Then he spouts his knowledge of internet routing, tries to paste THAT onto LN routing, saying it's stupid & calling LN devs idiots. 👏

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        7. Adam B. Levine‏ @GamerAndy Feb 25
          Replying to @bradmillscan @c4chaos and

          It strikes me that Falkevinge is used to fighting an idealogical war against the establishment, and is doing here what he did with the pirate party - pointing out the problems with the status quo hyperbolicly. Unfortunately, it doesn't map so well in bitcoin as government

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        8. Brad Mills‏ @bradmillscan Feb 25
          Replying to @GamerAndy @c4chaos and

          Good point. It unfortunately is fooling a lot of noobs. I met a bright developer this week lthat took his video as gospel and thought LN was DOA. Shipping code is most important, but I wish we had a 'Consensys' type of entity to propagate good info and attract more devs.

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