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    1. Federico Tenga‏ @FedericoTenga Feb 3
      Replying to @hawks5999 @MYOFFICES @ProfFaustus

      Disabling OP codes is a soft fork, miners can do it without the consent of validating nodes

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Dr Craig S Wright‏Verified account @ProfFaustus Feb 3
      Replying to @FedericoTenga @hawks5999 @MYOFFICES

      Only if they want to be orphaned

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. Federico Tenga‏ @FedericoTenga Feb 3
      Replying to @ProfFaustus @hawks5999 @MYOFFICES

      Why? People couldn't even tell a soft fork occurred, miners are simply ignoring transactions containing some opcodes, you can't force them to mine what they don't want. If miners want to softfork anything there is nothing nodes can do about it

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. hawks5999‏ @hawks5999 Feb 3
      Replying to @FedericoTenga @ProfFaustus @MYOFFICES

      But Luke told me muh node haz all the power!

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Federico Tenga‏ @FedericoTenga Feb 3
      Replying to @hawks5999 @ProfFaustus @MYOFFICES

      Nodes can stop a hard fork and orphan miners doing stuff forbidden by the their rules, not force miners to mine stuff they don't want to mine

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Dr Craig S Wright‏Verified account @ProfFaustus Feb 4
      Replying to @FedericoTenga @hawks5999 @MYOFFICES

      Only miners are full nodes. User (Non mining) nodes are superfluous. They do nothing. Forget your false UASF rhetorical BS. Only miners matter for consensus. Bitcoin IS not a mesh. No hops. No reason for non miners in the network. No added value. No effect

      2 replies 3 retweets 4 likes
    7. Federico Tenga‏ @FedericoTenga Feb 4
      Replying to @ProfFaustus @hawks5999 @MYOFFICES

      A non mining user obviously cannot influence the rules alone, but he can detect the change in rules and opt-out until somebody mines a block that he likes. You need a full node to see what's going on in the network and decide if you still wanna be part of it

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Dr Craig S Wright‏Verified account @ProfFaustus Feb 4
      Replying to @FedericoTenga @hawks5999 @MYOFFICES

      And this means nothing. You can turn off your node as well. That is all you do. It does nothing at all to the network and nobody sees your protest. If a node makes a protest in the deep woods, nobody cares.... And no, full nodes are miners. Full nodes are ONLY miners

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    9. Dr Craig S Wright‏Verified account @ProfFaustus Feb 4
      Replying to @ProfFaustus @FedericoTenga and

      If you are not a miner, you are not BY definition a full node.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Dr Craig S Wright‏Verified account @ProfFaustus Feb 4
      Replying to @ProfFaustus @FedericoTenga and

      A user node influences nothing. Changes Nothing Alerts nothing impacts nothing.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Feb 4
      Replying to @ProfFaustus @FedericoTenga and

      aside from the Bitcoin whitepaper. do you have a detailed technical article which expound and prove this point? reason i ask is that @adam3us and other Bitcoin evangelists insist that user nodes help secure the network. i’d love to see a debate on this. #Bitcoin #StoreOfDrama

      8:45 AM - 4 Feb 2018
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        2. Dr Craig S Wright‏Verified account @ProfFaustus Feb 4
          Replying to @c4chaos @FedericoTenga and

          The code... it is a good start Here is something. Debate means nothing. This is science and fact. It does or does not. That is testable empirically. Rhetoric, no value

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Feb 4
          Replying to @ProfFaustus @FedericoTenga and

          so demonstrate the science and fact. and then reference it for everyone to see. this way, any attempt at rhetoric can be easily dispelled by a simple reference.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Dr Craig S Wright‏Verified account @ProfFaustus Feb 4
          Replying to @c4chaos @FedericoTenga and

          I have. The fact you seek to ignore what is clear and obvious is not my issue. I really do not care if many of the the BTC crowd are all enlightened. The simplest point is, non mining nodes do not up[date the network. The rest I have covered

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Feb 4
          Replying to @ProfFaustus @FedericoTenga and

          the fact is that Bitcoin maximalists and evangelists have convinced practically everyone that non-mining nodes contribute in securing the network. the onus is on experts and people like you to prove them wrong with facts and science.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. hawks5999‏ @hawks5999 Feb 4
          Replying to @c4chaos @ProfFaustus and

          hawks5999 Retweeted Alberto Brandolini

          Or what? Let BTC persist with their geocentric-quality science. They will kill themselves off. Better to stay focused on moving forward with the heliocentric-quality of BCH and not get weighed down in an asymmetric debate:https://twitter.com/ziobrando/status/289635060758507521 …

          hawks5999 added,

          Alberto Brandolini @ziobrando
          The bullshit asimmetry: the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Feb 4
          Replying to @hawks5999 @ProfFaustus and

          there’s no “or what”. there’s just the fact that Bitcoin maximalists & evangelists who write books and do videos/podcasts have spread the information that running full (non-mining) nodes contribute in securing the network. ergo it becomes de facto “truth” unless debunked.

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Feb 4
          Replying to @c4chaos @hawks5999 and

          case in point: Bitcoin Q&A: What is the role of nodes? via @aantonophttps://youtu.be/fNk7nYxTOyQ 

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        1. hawks5999‏ @hawks5999 Feb 4
          Replying to @c4chaos @ProfFaustus and

          I’ve listened to Adam and others and honestly they qualify that nodes with economic significance can influence. Others more trolly like Luke convinced an army of broke hobbyists they have to be able to run on a Pi or it’s not decentralized. That’s garbage.

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