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    1. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24

      We have stuff like this. It's called the legacy financial system. Don't confuse it with a cryptocurrency.pic.twitter.com/5ANQSvgsrq

      59 replies 130 retweets 608 likes
    2. Luke Stokes‏ @lukestokes Jun 24
      Replying to @IOHK_Charles

      Where did you obtain this image? What process did you take to validate it as being authentic?

      4 replies 1 retweet 15 likes
    3. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
      Replying to @lukestokes

      I found it flowing around several telegram groups. I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying. Again (for the second time) if a token has the capacity to do this, then it is not a cryptocurrency. Does EOS have this capability built into the protocol?

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    4. Luke Stokes‏ @lukestokes Jun 24
      Replying to @IOHK_Charles

      Cryptocurrency: a digital currency in which encryption techniques are used to regulate the generation of units of currency and verify the transfer of funds, operating independently of a central bank. Yes, DPOS has on-chain governance and is still a cryptocurrency.

      2 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
    5. Luke Stokes‏ @lukestokes Jun 24
      Replying to @lukestokes @IOHK_Charles

      Many see you as a competitor to a multi-billion dollar blockchain project. Sharing false information "you found on Telegram" is irresponsible, IMO. If you understand the EOS project, you'd already know how the constitution outlines BPs work with arbitrators for dispute resolution

      4 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    6. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
      Replying to @lukestokes

      It was blantantly irresponsible for Dan Larimer to draft a blog post falsely claiming that iohk research didn't cite or even plagiarized his work on DPoS. It's also blatantly irresponsible for http://block.one  to raise 4 billion dollars with no fiduciary responsibility

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    7. Luke Stokes‏ @lukestokes Jun 24
      Replying to @IOHK_Charles

      Red herring and ad hominem. This isn't about Dan or the speculators that made Block One rich. Why ask for my individual opinion on EOS? Go read the Github code. Anyone who has been following what EOS is doing understands the level of governance responsibility BPs have.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
      Replying to @lukestokes

      I have read the code. The performance claims are lies. EOS cannot run at several hundred thousand TPS. As for governance, unless its also fake news, less than 1 percent control more than 51 percent of the stake. You are ruled by an oligarchy

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Jun 24
      Replying to @IOHK_Charles @lukestokes

      this is a different thread of conversation which makes bold publlic claim that @bytemaster7 is lying about $EOS scaling and performance capabilities. i guess this can be settled only with time as the network grows and EOS scaling roadmap milestones are reached, or not.

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    10. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
      Replying to @c4chaos @lukestokes @bytemaster7

      Use commonsense https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.01626  was written by some of the best experts in the space and they are getting 50 TPS. Tuning can certainly give you an order of magnitude, but not 4. Are IBM via hyperledger and the broader distributed systems community all incompetent?

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      ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Jun 24
      Replying to @IOHK_Charles @lukestokes @bytemaster7

      maybe you’re right. but i tend to favor those who attempt to do the impossible. that’s why i jumped early into $TSLA with @elonmusk, and Crypto (Bitcoin, Ethereum, IOTA, DASH, $EOS, etc.) when everyone else was saying it can’t be done.

      10:09 AM - 24 Jun 2018
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        2. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
          Replying to @c4chaos @lukestokes and

          Elon Musk didn't do the impossible. We- like all good entrepreneurs- noticed that mobile devices where forcing the evolution of battery tech enough to make it practical for cars. He then did hard work to execute. He didn't invent a super battery 4 factors better than Panasonic

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        1. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
          Replying to @c4chaos @lukestokes and

          We've spent years systematically building out the science of both proof of stake and sidechains. Each paper is methodically written and moves the state of the art a little. That's how real and sustainable innovation is done

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        1. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
          Replying to @c4chaos @lukestokes and

          It's not sexy. It's really hard and usually thankless. Progress stalls and regresses at times. But over a long arc, you have a solid foundation to stand upon that will last a century.

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        2. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
          Replying to @c4chaos @lukestokes and

          Your children's grandchildren will be using this system. Let's not curse them with sins and flaws made in haste to achieve some arbitrary vanity metric. Give them something you're proud to pass on

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        3. Luke Stokes‏ @lukestokes Jun 24
          Replying to @IOHK_Charles @c4chaos and

          Couldn't they also be using DPOS systems like EOS, BitShares, and STEEM? There are many methods to achieving robustness and resilience. Academic papers are not the only effective approach. I'm disappointed you have not taken any responsibly for spreading fake news.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
          Replying to @lukestokes @c4chaos and

          DPoS works and has built real products. This was never up for debate. It was proven a long time ago.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos Jun 24
          Replying to @IOHK_Charles @lukestokes and

          i remember you, Charles, saying that it’s the *community* that gives real value to a project. it’s the $BTS and $STEEM communities that made #DPOS work. $EOS has the most passionate community working together. i hope to see Cardano grow a stronger community when it launches.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Charles Hoskinson‏ @IOHK_Charles Jun 24
          Replying to @c4chaos @lukestokes and

          Yes I did say that and it's even more true today. And when a community accepts a governance structure that normalizes blacklisting, reversals and freezing, then it leads to an unhealthy ecosystem. It's the same when we accept civil asset forfeiture with fiat. Both are wrong

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        7. Luke Stokes‏ @lukestokes Jun 24
          Replying to @IOHK_Charles @c4chaos and

          This sounds to me like a false dichotomy and poor comparison. Protecting property (which is arguable what has been done so far with _valid_ ECAF orders) is not unhealthy. Monopoly on violence in a geographic region backing mafia-style enforcers (police) with no due process is.

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