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    1. Andrew Gallant‏ @burntsushi5 25 Aug 2019
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      Brainstorm with me. How plausible is it for quickcheck to break ties with rand?https://github.com/BurntSushi/quickcheck/issues/241 …

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    2. Siân Griffin  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 25 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @burntsushi5

      Commenting here since it's tangential, and I don't want to derail your issue, but I think we really need to decide as a community what we consider to be the norm for compiler version support. I think we can be more aggressive than other langs, but different crates have diff needs

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    3. Andrew Gallant‏ @burntsushi5 25 Aug 2019
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      I agree. To be clear though, if it were only about MSRV, I could overlook that, at least for rand. I still like the LTS idea that boats/aturon proposed. It provides a rallying point. Adding MSRV to Cargo.toml in order to improve failure modes is also a good start.

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    4. Siân Griffin  🏳️‍⚧️‏ @sgrif 25 Aug 2019
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      LTS RFC is definitely the most compelling solution I've seen so far. I also agree adding this to Cargo.toml would be great, especially if it affected version resolution

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    5. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 25 Aug 2019
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      How’d crate maintainers be compensated ($) for maintaining an LTS version that’s no fun, only pain? There’s no plan for that, AFAICT, making the whole LTS idea accidentally anti-maintainer & pro-freeloading, despite good intentions. “Latest stable Rust only” works economically.

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    6. Andrew Gallant‏ @burntsushi5 25 Aug 2019
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      I don't work in crypto. I'm happy to have crypto people tell me the policy doesn't work for them. But that doesn't mean it others can't or shouldn't adopt it.

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    7. Christian Legnitto‏ @LegNeato 25 Aug 2019
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      I don't like LTS releases for the same reason I didn't like--and fought against--Firefox's ESR (and was ultimately forced to do it). Takes resources from present and future to accommodate people stuck in the past. Codifies bad practices as accepted and encouraged

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      Andrew Gallant‏ @burntsushi5 25 Aug 2019
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      I maintain dozens of crates. I am just not always going to be able to keep all of them up to date with every best practice. Code needs to be able to sit without needing my attention every 6 weeks. This is churn, and ALSO takes resources.

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        2. Christian Legnitto‏ @LegNeato 25 Aug 2019
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          Totally! But I would argue that's good churn (keeping up with an improving ecosystem) vs bad churn with LTS (trading off current improvements or adding complexity to accommodate the past). I only maintain one lib of substance (Juniper) and we choose to do stable - 2 releases FWIW

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        3. Andrew Gallant‏ @burntsushi5 25 Aug 2019
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          I don't really agree with that characterization. To me, churn is a negative thing to be mitigated and minimized. Depending on situation and type of crate, the degree of success will vary. To me, the word "churn" doesn't really apply to LTS maintenance.

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        2. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 25 Aug 2019
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          It’s a great way for new contributors to jump in and join the community. Seen it many times since in the past I frequently made breaking changes to *ring* that require users to tweak code. It works great if/when we work together.

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        3. ʟʟoɢiq‏ @llogiq 25 Aug 2019
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          Those contributors are a non-renewable resource. Please keep this in mind.

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