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raised in stem, stretching out into myth, meditation & meanings. keen for conversation.

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    1. Jonathan Dubin‏ @jondubin Jun 6
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      ongoing "bibliography" thread

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    4. nick‏ @brownian19 Jun 17
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      damn, thanks. this is real solid. didn't think Val posted there anymore. reminds me of a personal relationships milestone: "I am responsible for my emotions", said another way "there's a reason I've chosen to feel this" Other people can't *make* me do things.

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      I'm also feeling some Guru Papers here, in the subtle ways we use power & control to regulate others behaviour, and in turn our emotions. @Malcolm_Ocean probably knows more.

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      I feel like these dynamics are very much Kegan's stage 3 as I've a subagent wailing "but.. what if I hurt a family member".

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    7. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Jun 18
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      It's a mess! Your insight "other people can't make me do things" is also only a stage in development. There's an important truth to it, *and* it could be used to justify cruelty: "if you were taking responsibility for your feelings, then you wouldn't be upset right now"

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    8. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Jun 18
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      It has a similar property to the "upper limit problem" (ULP) which is "I'm only willing to let my life get so great before I'll sabotage it." Helpful for self-inquiry, but trying to tell someone else that this is what you think they're doing is almost always anti-helpful.pic.twitter.com/fcwHb3E5ub

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      handy concept, I resonate with the *fundamentally flawed* sentiment, "there's something wrong with me". have you tried the book, recommended? sharing your own muddled dynamics, very helpful. Sharing your take on other peoples, not so much.

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      Interesting that we self regulate like that. I hadn't heard it before but makes a lot of sense. checks and balances between the subagents. a default local optima. It makes me think of certain emotional logic bugs where eg *I'm not allowed to think X*

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        1. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Jun 20
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          Oh man if you want to read/think about self-regulation like that, check out perceptual control theory https://www.amazon.com/Making-Sense-Behavior-Meaning-Control/dp/0964712156/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=making+sense+of+behavior&qid=1561076433&s=gateway&sr=8-1 …

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