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    1. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      Ross Dothan's NYTimes column about "The Redistribution of Sex" is a great example of why people who are not well-versed in sexuality as a field should not be writing about topics as fraught as incels and their violent demands of more sexual gratification from women.

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    2. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      Our response to incels should NOT be a thought experiment about sex robots + government sex redistribution programs. It should be a blistering disavowal of their violent, misogynist worldview, and a conversation about creating a healthier, more respectful sexual culture for all.

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    3. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      Ross Douthat makes a grave mistake taking incels at their word that they can't get laid and conflating them with marginalized groups considered unattractive for bigoted reasons. Incels could get laid if they didn't hate women and feel entitled to *hot* women.

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    4. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      I think we do have a right to a healthy sex life: to access to sexual healthcare, to a society free of sexual shame. But we do not have a right to other peoples' bodies, and that's what the incels believe. They don't feel entitled to sexual pleasure, they feel entitled to women.

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    5. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      "I expect the logic of commerce and technology will be consciously harnessed... to address the unhappiness of incels, be they angry and dangerous or simply depressed and despairing." The incel worldview is inherently sexist. Their unhappiness is really hatred.

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    6. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      I don't understand why the @nytimes invested in a literal Gender Editor and is still letting op-eds that are tenuous at best and deeply damaging at worst like Ross Douthat's latest see the light of day. @jessicabennett, what do you think of this? Can you please write a response?

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    7. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      Hey media! Incels are the new Gamergate. Are you going to mess this up again? Are you going to laugh them off as a weird curiosity with valid ideas to explore, or are you going to recognize them as a hate movement that has *already* inspired multiple murders?

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    8. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      Why are men in media responding to an *actual murderer and misogynist terrorist* by talking about sex robots and wondering if nerds have a right to get laid? WHAT ARE YOU DOING. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SEXISM. IT'S 2018. PEOPLE ARE DYING.

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    9. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      I don't want to hear any more opinions from men about incels unless it's an aggressive dismissal of their violent bullshit or an intelligent conversation about our broken, entitled sexual culture and mental health. In the mean time, I'm looking for literary representation. 👀

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      ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

      People I want to read #incel takes from: - sex workers, who are being suggested as a solution and shouldn't have to deal with these shit men as clients - men engaged in the work of fixing masculinity - women who have trouble getting laid and somehow manage to not be trash humans!

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        2. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

          ella dawson Retweeted Jessica Valenti

          Do yourself a favor and read @JessicaValenti's essay instead of that other one.https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/991715443260973057 …

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          Jessica ValentiVerified account @JessicaValenti
          I also wrote about incels for the NYT. My take was...different. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/opinion/when-misogynists-become-terrorists.html …
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        3. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2

          ella dawson Retweeted Talia Lavin

          Not convinced #incels are dangerous? Read this old reddit post suggesting how incels should be assigned (or "redistributed" 👀) women to sleep with by govt. "Every time a woman sleeps with a new man, she loses one rank on her sexual-market value card."https://twitter.com/chick_in_kiev/status/990235360209915905 …

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          Talia LavinVerified account @chick_in_kiev
          i just. i can't. these are human beings but they live on a different planet i think pic.twitter.com/1Y0PMi2fe5
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        2. Michael Lieberman‏ @mlieberman85 May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose

          Lack of sex is the symptom, misogyny is the disease. This article tries to indicate the opposite. If we gave incels sex robots they wouldn't magically have less toxic views about women.

          4 replies 15 retweets 111 likes
        3. Peter Corless  🌎 ☮‏ @PeterCorless May 2
          Replying to @mlieberman85 @brosandprose

          Ppsssst. If no woman will sleep with them... they could sleep with *each other*.pic.twitter.com/r7vYnxTTCq

          3 replies 11 retweets 95 likes
        4. Peter Corless  🌎 ☮‏ @PeterCorless May 2
          Replying to @PeterCorless @mlieberman85 @brosandprose

          I call this alternative reality scenario "A Handjob's Tale."pic.twitter.com/EO1OvcEHwl

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        2. Lydia Bubniak‏ @LydiaBubniak May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose

          Off the top of my head (in addition to the woman columnists you already know of), @justinbaldoni does great work in prompting men to rethink masculinity in a way that is better and healthier for both women and men. Take a listen to his TED talk.

          1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
        3. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2
          Replying to @LydiaBubniak @justinbaldoni

          I have! I coincidentally work for TED. Justin's amazing.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        4. Lydia Bubniak‏ @LydiaBubniak May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose @justinbaldoni

          omg didn't even realize! now i feel silly 😂

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        2. Toxic Megacolon‏ @bizzyunderscore May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose

          You Had One Job @jessicabennett - literally! It must be great to have a job where you get to just pick and choose whatever your responsibilities happen to be that day

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        3. ella dawson‏Verified account @brosandprose May 2
          Replying to @bizzyunderscore @jessicabennett

          This isn't at all Jessica's fault, they're separate verticals. But I hope we'll see some coverage of this conversation done right soon.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. count every ballot‏ @sooatwoo May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose

          Hi! Longtime single woman here! Living in NYC I had dozens of beautiful talented self-sufficient female friends who are also chronically single with long dry spells. We also have dozens of sexual horror stories about being treated terribly. Yet somehow we're not murdering guys...

          3 replies 5 retweets 37 likes
        3. count every ballot‏ @sooatwoo May 2
          Replying to @sooatwoo @brosandprose

          I dumped my @nytimes sub in 2017 - Does the article even touch on how many women might be afraid hooking up with men due to past traumatic experiences? Because that's been my personal experience. I might want to hook-up but am afraid of being hurt physically or humiliated.

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        1. Dr. Susan Block‏ @drsuzy May 8
          Replying to @brosandprose

          I'm a sex therapist / sex worker & I work with a number of clients who identify as "incel" 😕 I wrote about my experience & my philosophy of the Bonobo Way here in Counterpunch:https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/05/04/incel-therapy-bonobo-style/ …

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        1. Caren Lissner‏ @CarenLissner May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose

          2) ...women often (not all) tend to see their goal as "getting laid by someone who's also kind and interesting to be with" and this makes it harder to find...yet they still don't kill. Finding a compatible person, EVEN just for gettin' it on, can be complicated. Most accept this.

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        1. vintagecat‏ @vintage_vendor May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose

          In my late20s/30s I couldn't find a decent man. At. All. Most guys that were sharp, clean, had a job and without addictions were interested in women much younger and hotter than I was. It was a sad decade before I met my husband. Been there, there's no excuse for these guys.

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        2.  🏳️‍🌈Lisa Talmadge  🔥‏ @LisaTalmadge May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose

          You don’t hear #lesbians demanding that hot women accommodate them or die.” Why is it only (incel) men feel they have a right to women’s bodies? #lgbt

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        1. K.‏ @katri_kr May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose

          You can bet your chosen body part that incels would be a prostitute's nightmare customer: determined to get his own way and ignore her boundaries, reluctant to pay the full rate, and then afterwards complaining about the level of service.

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        1. Iron-jawed Kathie J  🍷‏ @KathiePckat52 May 2
          Replying to @brosandprose

          You know I have gone without a sexual partner for years several times in my life and A) Didn't consider it anyone's fault.; B) Didn't demand the right to have sex with everyone I wanted to have it with; and C) Didn't feel the need to kill anybody to express my non-existent rage.

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