Then why are you tweeting supportively about, rather than condemning, the tactics of groups like "Woman's Place", which explicitly seek to use aggressive, lying smear campaigns against trans women? I honestly don't understand how you can support them and claim to oppose lies.
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Please show a tweet where I am supporting what they are saying. I am supporting their right to meet & discuss. I met 2 of them, together with 4 others. I have made no statement of support for what the group believe. I am being attacked for listening & upholding fundamental rights
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You retweeted someone earlier claiming that "only one camp wants to shut down discussion". This is provably false. Woman's Place want to prevent self-declared trans women from joining in women's spaces, which is exactly where many of these discussions need to take place.
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I know self-declared trans women who have not only attended their events but have spoken at them. Your assertion is simply not true.
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By invitation, Brian, not by right. It is WPUK's position that, fundamentally, gender identity is not a subject of discrimination - see for example their model motion that they want CLPs to pass which has this as point 1. Can you not see how damaging that is for trans people?
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As I say, I have made no comment yet about the group as a whole and as I have consistently said, I do not want to comment on the substantive issues until I have learned enough from all those who want to engage with me.
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Would it not, then, possibly be a good idea for you to remove & avoid tweets on this issue until such time as you feel able to discuss it in more depth? You have a significant public platform, and your wording and framing of tweets *matters*.
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You can see that many of us - your own party colleagues - are worried that your making interim statements on this without a clear view of the issues risks presenting a harmful distraction to Lib Dem efforts as a whole in this area. You have a responsibility to the party here.
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Brian I am trans myself- please know that not all of us are extreme trans activists. Many of us would welcome a more sane dialogue. Don't let people bully you. You're doing fine.
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Good for you Rhys.
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You are publicly tweeting in support of an organisation that hosts people who make violent threats against trans people and works with people trying to associate us with paedophiles. This is not supporting trans rights. You are supporting hate.
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Neither of these things are remotely true. It is really sad to see such distortions of the truth happening amdist a genuine chance for dialogue. Have you visited the website of
@Womans_Place_UK? Or read their position? Point to me one statement that backs up the claims you make.
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@SFPublicLibrary celebrating the violent movement of transdykes and the Genderettes - includes axes and baseball bats taken on pride marches- Brian you won't believe your eyes- https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2017/06/27/transdykes-the-anti-lesbian-antifa/amp/ …pic.twitter.com/78th6Hm5Ef
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"Support trans rights" sounds good at a public rally. The question, however, is "which rights". There are certain particular trans rights to which that group is opposed to. Some of them are in fact already in UK law but they pretend reform is about them - or want to abolish them.
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No, they don't want to abolish the law allowing the right of, say, transwomen to use female spaces. They want to discuss if the law is being used correctly. It should be used to balance the rights of the respective groups, where these conflict, which they sometimes do,that's all.
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Current law defaults to allowing it, and then allows organizations to opt for disallowing after proving the need. If they want disallowing trans to be the default in some cases, not a limited option, that would require a change of the law.
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If they are saying that some organizations opted to disallow trans people, but their proof was denied as insufficient, they have to show these cases to start with.
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Have a look at their leaflet, it makes v clear what they want. This is the trouble with not talking, you can't really understand people. Better to engage, honestly.
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I saw their leaflet. It is totally disingenuous and there is not a single valid concern in it. Not a single one.
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Will you come to a meeting and talk about why it’s wrong?
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If I were in Britain, I would. "Crossdressed" to boot just to spite everyone, I guess. There's a logistical problem though, I'm in Ireland. We have no such meetings here and no need for them, we have self-ID and it works fine.
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