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Honesty & integrity have a cost. Lib Dem Home Affairs lead in House of Lords. Ran for Mayor of London 2008 & 2012. Met Police 1976 - 2007. m. Mr Petter Belsvik

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    Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Apr 25
    Replying to @TweedledumAl @Womans_Place_UK

    Don’t agree with comments quoted & many tweets on my feed are vile, transphobic, hurtful & divisive. But where are the trans people condemning physical assaults & intimidation of people wanting to meet to talk about their concerns? Hateful people & sensible people on both sides.

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      2. Al Tweedledum‏ @TweedledumAl Apr 25
        Replying to @brianpaddick @Womans_Place_UK

        Also note that I’ve been in various places where protests were distorted to fit a transphobic agenda afterwards & blatant lies spread about things that didn’t happen. Look at #WPUK and the pics from tonight and how a narrative is concocted.

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      3. Womans_Place_UK‏ @Womans_Place_UK Apr 25
        Replying to @TweedledumAl @brianpaddick

        We really don't know what you mean. We do know there's an awful lot of energy put into attacking us when it would be a lot easier all round to sit down and listen to our concerns. We are here and ready to talk.

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      2. Al Tweedledum‏ @TweedledumAl Apr 25
        Replying to @brianpaddick @Womans_Place_UK

        Finally, most of the demands made by @Womans_Place_UK would have zilch to do with the GRA - most of this is covered by the 2010 Equality Act (which, again, I assume you know). The entire basis of the requested “debate” is disingenuous.

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      3. Womans_Place_UK‏ @Womans_Place_UK Apr 25
        Replying to @TweedledumAl @brianpaddick

        If all our concerns are without foundation then it should be really easy to sit down and make the necessary guarantees that we are asking for. Why is it then, that no-one has been able to do that? Until they do, we'll keep going.

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      4. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Apr 25
        Replying to @Womans_Place_UK @TweedledumAl @brianpaddick

        But are you asking for "guarantees" of things that are not true under the present regime? For example, present law does not MANDATE single-sex sexes excluding trans people, it only provides a narrow exception that need to be justified. Here's a recent casehttps://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/store-failed-to-take-the-grievances-of-a-transgender-staff-member-seriously-36612162.html …

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      5. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Apr 25
        Replying to @ramendik @Womans_Place_UK and

        Note that harassment of the trans woman because she was using the female bathroom and persistent denial of her gender identity were among the things condemned by a UK court. This is here and now, before any reform. Nothing to do with GRA reform. Do you want to protest that case?

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      2. Richard Gadsden 🐝‏ @po8crg Apr 25
        Replying to @brianpaddick

        You do realise how much "sensible people on both sides" sounds like Trump talking about Charlottesville?

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      3. Karen VodkaVixen / Foxbase Alpha‏ @renarde Apr 25
        Replying to @po8crg @brianpaddick

        True. Only one side turns up masked, threatens violence, and is convicted of assault. Hint: it’s not the feminists.

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      2. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Apr 25
        Replying to @brianpaddick @TweedledumAl @Womans_Place_UK

        There is no "physical assaults" plural to condemn. There was a single case of a violent reaction to filming. Many people, including @stonewalluk , condemned the behaviour at the time.

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      3. purplereign‏ @QueenOfThorns10 Apr 26
        Replying to @ramendik @brianpaddick and

        Screaming at people , trying to get them removed from their job and trying to physically stop them from entering spaces also count as assault to most people , you know

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Apr 26
        Replying to @QueenOfThorns10 @ChloeHewitt7 and

        The term used was specifically "physical assault". There is undoubtedly a legal assault on the "right" to use "primacy of biology" in some circumstances, and it did not start with GRA reform, here's a case under present lawhttps://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/store-failed-to-take-the-grievances-of-a-transgender-staff-member-seriously-36612162.html …

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      2. H Owen‏ @HeidiOwen12 Apr 25
        Replying to @brianpaddick @TweedledumAl @Womans_Place_UK

        Agree,yes. But it's worth noting that, so far, only one "side" are shutting down free speech,( and wearing masks and so on..)

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      2. Alicia Butteriss‏ @agbutteriss Apr 25
        Replying to @brianpaddick @TweedledumAl

        The very fact that (as you claimed) there were trans women at that meeting would indicate that trans people aren't a monolith, and surely you could see how dodgy asking for an opressed group as a whole to condemn individual actions is?

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      3. Alicia Butteriss‏ @agbutteriss Apr 25
        Replying to @agbutteriss @brianpaddick @TweedledumAl

        To stray out of my lane even more with an analogy: If, say, antifa were to block a meeting of For Britain (who stay on the right side of the law), on the grounds of that group's Islamophobia, would it be fair to expect Muslims to condemn antifa, even if violence was involved?

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      1. Becca Lamont Jiggens‏ @beccalamjig Apr 26
        Replying to @brianpaddick @TweedledumAl @Womans_Place_UK

        If the 'concerns' people want to talk about are whether or not one marginalised section of society should have human rights, then it's completely ok for people to turn out and loudly protest such hateful nonsense.

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      1. Ross Stalker‏ @ross_stalker Apr 25
        Replying to @brianpaddick @TweedledumAl @Womans_Place_UK

        People in decades gone by who tried to deny the existence of, or spread mistruths about, gay men said they just wanted to "talk about their concerns". And as I'm sure you are aware Brian, gay men didn't just sit down and have a polite debate with them.

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      1. Al Tweedledum‏ @TweedledumAl Apr 25
        Replying to @brianpaddick @Womans_Place_UK

        Please tell me which physical assaults (plural) have happened? What “intimidation”? Does protesting count as intimidation? Does wearing masks? What would you like trans women and their allies to condemn?

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