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Honesty & integrity have a cost. Lib Dem Home Affairs lead in House of Lords. Ran for Mayor of London 2008 & 2012. Met Police 1976 - 2007. m. Mr Petter Belsvik

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    1. Gavin Hales‏ @gmhales 2 Sep 2017

      'Concern over Met police use of spit hoods on black detainees'https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/02/concern-over-met-police-use-of-spit-hoods-on-black-detainees?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet …

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    2. Graham Wettone‏ @grahamwettone 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @gmhales

      It's about who is spitting at you not their gender or ethnicity. Do these people think cops detain a black person & decide to use it? 😠😠

      2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
    3. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @grahamwettone @gmhales

      Unlike stop/search, compliance is a complicating factor. Don't spit, don't get spit hooded. Don't fight, don't get tasered, if properly used

      1 reply 4 retweets 10 likes
    4. Gavin Hales‏ @gmhales 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @brianpaddick @grahamwettone

      Seems 2 poss grey areas: (1) if #spithoods used pre-emptively where belief/concern that spitting may occur; (2) if not used on all spitters>

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    5. Gavin Hales‏ @gmhales 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @gmhales @brianpaddick @grahamwettone

      > in both cases there wld be the poss of bias. If neither apply, however, then focus on the detained suspect alone (in the MPS custody case)

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    6. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @gmhales @grahamwettone

      Exactly, which is why further research is needed. Spit hoods should not be used preemptively & taser only as last resort. Should focus there

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    7. Gavin Hales‏ @gmhales 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @brianpaddick @grahamwettone

      From what I've been told previously it is sometimes used pre-emptively, eg based on DP's behaviour &/or threats

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    8. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @gmhales @grahamwettone

      No knowledge but I do not support preemptive use of spit hoods. Disproportionate in my view to hood someone who has not already spat.

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. ResponseCop‏ @ResponseCopGB 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @brianpaddick @gmhales @grahamwettone

      Why Not? If someone has spat at officer previously or says they'll spit, Why not use it as a pre-emptive tactic for safety of all?!!!?!?!

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      Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick 2 Sep 2017
      Replying to @ResponseCopGB @gmhales @grahamwettone

      The question is, is it justifiable & proportionate in all the circumstances? If they've got previous & threatening again, maybe. Difficult.

      11:46 AM - 2 Sep 2017
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        2. Graham Wettone‏ @grahamwettone 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @brianpaddick @ResponseCopGB @gmhales

          Those two words justifiable & proportionate - down to officer using it & maybe before waiting to be spat at.

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        3. ResponseCop‏ @ResponseCopGB 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @grahamwettone @brianpaddick @gmhales

          Pre-emptive strike under common law... would include spit hood use? You do not have to wait for the offender to throw the first punch.

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        4. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @ResponseCopGB @grahamwettone @gmhales

          I'm expressing an opinion not a legal certainty. I'm saying this needs to be carefully researched.

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        1. ResponseCop‏ @ResponseCopGB 2 Sep 2017
          Replying to @brianpaddick @gmhales @grahamwettone

          The use of it HAS to be justified in a duty statement as would other uses of force...

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