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Honesty & integrity have a cost. Lib Dem Home Affairs lead in House of Lords. Ran for Mayor of London 2008 & 2012. Met Police 1976 - 2007. m. Mr Petter Belsvik

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    1. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 11

      July 2016. Norway introduces a new law which means anyone can change their "legal sex" on paper, simply by filling in a form. (1)

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    2. Jayne Campbell‏ @JayneCa57704618 Oct 12
      Replying to @kajsa_skog

      @brianpaddick any advice?

      2 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
    3. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Oct 20
      Replying to @JayneCa57704618 @kajsa_skog

      Had to wait until my Norwegian husband could explain it to me. The tribunal found that the woman's conduct would have amounted to harassment if it had been in the street (transphobia) but the rules of the gym said 'no male genitalia in the female locker room' so it wasn't.

      6 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    4. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
      Replying to @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

      That's not what the case review says. The tribunal differentiates between work & non work situations. If she'd objected to working with him or refused to refer to him as a woman at work, it would have been different. (1)

      3 replies 2 retweets 17 likes
    5. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
      Replying to @kajsa_skog @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

      Which is deeply sinister in itself! Iirc article 10 of the European convention states that no one should be forced to express a belief which they do not hold, I'm not sure if Norway is exempt from this law... (2)

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      Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Oct 20
      Replying to @kajsa_skog @JayneCa57704618

      It's not about "expressing a belief" it's about whether behaviour amounted to harassment or not.

      3:27 AM - 20 Oct 2018
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        2. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          But expressing her belief that the man is a man is part of the accusations of harassment! Did any of you actually read it?

          1 reply 2 retweets 31 likes
        3. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Oct 20
          Replying to @kajsa_skog @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          One can very well be required to *not* express a belief in certain situations, especially at work. And sometimes one *can* be required at work to state legal reality as opposed to their own view, though, yes, this has severe limits (unless one is a judge, then this IS work).

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        4. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 21
          Replying to @ramendik @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          Indeed, not talking about one's religious faith at work is reasonable for example. But to demand that someone refers to a man as a woman or vice versa is compelled speech & gaslighting and I can't see how it can be defended.

          1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
        5. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Oct 21
          Replying to @kajsa_skog @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          Exactly in the same way as referring to same sex people as parents. In public employment this is a person representing the state and not themselves. Other employment, a part of enforced politeness.

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        6. CorrienteCanta‏ @corrientecanta Oct 21
          Replying to @ramendik @kajsa_skog and

          Lol. It is nothing like referring to same-sex people as parents. If they are parents then that is a true fact. Forcing a woman to refer to a man as a woman is coercive control.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Oct 21
          Replying to @corrientecanta @kajsa_skog and

          There are many people who sincerely believe that every child deserves a mother and a father and that two people of the same sex can not really be parents, as that is biologically impossible. Why is forcing such people - some are women - to refer to two men as parents different?

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        8. CorrienteCanta‏ @corrientecanta Oct 21
          Replying to @ramendik @kajsa_skog and

          It's different in many ways. 1) Parent has long been used to describe non-biological parents, e.g. adoptive, foster, other family. 2) Their status as parent doesn't require anyone else to be defined out of existence, the way "transwoman" requires "woman" to be redefined.

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        9. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Oct 21
          Replying to @corrientecanta @kajsa_skog and

          (2) is outright false, as expanding the meaning of "woman" does not define anyone out of existence (like, say, defining "Irish" to include me, or to include a black person, does not define any true-blooded Gael out of existence). But again this is neither here nor there.

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        2. Ghost of Christmas past  🎄‏ @The_Mrs_Burton Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @kajsa_skog @JayneCa57704618

          It was harassment on the part of the penis owning person towards the woman.

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        3. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Oct 20
          Replying to @The_Mrs_Burton @kajsa_skog @JayneCa57704618

          it was not the woman who brought the case and it was not the conclusion of the tribunal but if that is your opinion, I understand and respect your right to express it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Ghost of Christmas past  🎄‏ @The_Mrs_Burton Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @kajsa_skog @JayneCa57704618

          Thank you.

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        2. HerbyHellsBelle‏ @HerbyHellsBelle Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @kajsa_skog @JayneCa57704618

          If the state can require you to refer to a man as a woman, it can require you to say anything. You should be very suspicious of any rule that requires people to ignore reality. How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?

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