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Honesty & integrity have a cost. Lib Dem Home Affairs lead in House of Lords. Ran for Mayor of London 2008 & 2012. Met Police 1976 - 2007. m. Mr Petter Belsvik

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    1. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 11

      July 2016. Norway introduces a new law which means anyone can change their "legal sex" on paper, simply by filling in a form. (1)

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    2. Jayne Campbell‏ @JayneCa57704618 Oct 12
      Replying to @kajsa_skog

      @brianpaddick any advice?

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      Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Oct 20
      Replying to @JayneCa57704618 @kajsa_skog

      Had to wait until my Norwegian husband could explain it to me. The tribunal found that the woman's conduct would have amounted to harassment if it had been in the street (transphobia) but the rules of the gym said 'no male genitalia in the female locker room' so it wasn't.

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        2. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          That's not what the case review says. The tribunal differentiates between work & non work situations. If she'd objected to working with him or refused to refer to him as a woman at work, it would have been different. (1)

          3 replies 2 retweets 17 likes
        3. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
          Replying to @kajsa_skog @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          Which is deeply sinister in itself! Iirc article 10 of the European convention states that no one should be forced to express a belief which they do not hold, I'm not sure if Norway is exempt from this law... (2)

          1 reply 2 retweets 25 likes
        4. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Oct 20
          Replying to @kajsa_skog @JayneCa57704618

          It's not about "expressing a belief" it's about whether behaviour amounted to harassment or not.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          But expressing her belief that the man is a man is part of the accusations of harassment! Did any of you actually read it?

          1 reply 2 retweets 31 likes
        6. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Oct 20
          Replying to @kajsa_skog @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          One can very well be required to *not* express a belief in certain situations, especially at work. And sometimes one *can* be required at work to state legal reality as opposed to their own view, though, yes, this has severe limits (unless one is a judge, then this IS work).

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        7. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 21
          Replying to @ramendik @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          Indeed, not talking about one's religious faith at work is reasonable for example. But to demand that someone refers to a man as a woman or vice versa is compelled speech & gaslighting and I can't see how it can be defended.

          1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
        8. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Oct 21
          Replying to @kajsa_skog @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          Exactly in the same way as referring to same sex people as parents. In public employment this is a person representing the state and not themselves. Other employment, a part of enforced politeness.

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        2. Tonje Gjevjon‏ @TonjeGjevjon Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618 @kajsa_skog

          Anyone who self ID as a woman can use female locker room in Norway. Consequenses are that many women dont use Locker rooms. So we go home and shower instead. I am not comfortable with showering together with men, is that wrong?

          31 replies 202 retweets 422 likes
        3. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Oct 20
          Replying to @TonjeGjevjon @JayneCa57704618 @kajsa_skog

          The Norwegian tribunal ruling (17/9/2018) states the law hasn't been decided by the courts or parliament in Norway on what self-ID women can use. It also says the rules of the gym in question didn't allow male genitalia in the female locker room. Maybe the reality is different?

          8 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @TonjeGjevjon @JayneCa57704618

          You didn't actually read it did you? They initially told the woman that anyone with male genitalia must use the men's, then when the man complained they changed the rules. Now the women are excluded while men with self ID are included.

          2 replies 9 retweets 95 likes
        5. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Oct 20
          Replying to @kajsa_skog @TonjeGjevjon @JayneCa57704618

          The original text was translated/read to me by a Norwegian.

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        6. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @TonjeGjevjon @JayneCa57704618

          Brian, I shared the English translation with you. You didn't need to wait for your husband to translate it. In any case it's there for everyone to check for themselves.

          4 replies 4 retweets 71 likes
        7. Kate‏ @Kate_Butler Oct 20
          Replying to @kajsa_skog @brianpaddick and

          Classic mansplain. Remember to always ask a man first before listening to women's lived experience.

          3 replies 2 retweets 94 likes
        8. BeckiJ‏ @forevermygirl Oct 20
          Replying to @Kate_Butler @kajsa_skog and

          Actual Norwegian woman upthread being ignored by him or maybe that 'maybe reality is different' is telling her she is imagining it all?

          1 reply 0 retweets 40 likes
        9. Tonje Gjevjon‏ @TonjeGjevjon Oct 20
          Replying to @forevermygirl @Kate_Butler and

          The women who was accused of harassment in the women’s locker room after asking a male bodied person if he was in the wrong locker room went through a hard time. She had to engage a lawyer to defend her case. Reality in norway due to self ID.

          0 replies 43 retweets 116 likes
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        2. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618 @kajsa_skog

          My experience of Norwegian gyms and swimming pools is that they are often very open with nowhere for private changing or showering. This puts trans people in an invidious position about where to change. The important thing here is that no threat or misconduct was alleged.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          What about the women Brian? What do you think my young daughters and I feel when a man enters and we're undressed? Why should a tiny minority of men force women to stop using women's facilities?

          1 reply 0 retweets 16 likes
        4. TwelveYears‏ @GertieGreen2 Oct 21
          Replying to @kajsa_skog @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618

          Yep, thats the issue. Ive just joined a council gym. If that happened to me I wouldn't be able to go back. It could lead to women being excluded from facilities. How can that be right?

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        2. HerbyHellsBelle‏ @HerbyHellsBelle Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @JayneCa57704618 @kajsa_skog

          Sorry, what? You mean it's legal in Norway to go round with your dick hanging out in the street and it's harassment if women ask you to put it away? Not sure that's quite the case Brian Lovey.

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        3. Brian Paddick  👨‍❤️‍👨‏Verified account @brianpaddick Oct 20
          Replying to @HerbyHellsBelle @JayneCa57704618 @kajsa_skog

          Which is why I’m not engaging. Total distortion of the facts & what I said. Again and again and again.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Kajsa‏ @kajsa_skog Oct 20
          Replying to @brianpaddick @HerbyHellsBelle @JayneCa57704618

          You said above "The tribunal found that the woman's conduct would have amounted to harassment if it had been in the street" - unless he had his penis out on the street she wouldn't have had any reason to say anything. It's s bizarre comparison.

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