The use of that phrase to frame the whole debate also suggests that the speaker is in no way impartial and unlike you, is not likely to take an objective and balanced approach.
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Replying to @SCMcG @brianpaddick and
If I have wholly misunderstood, and only human rights were being discussed, I am happy to be corrected. But I feel it is essential that we can define these issues clearly. If the two sides claim “woman” means different things, all debate must necessarily be at cross-purposes.
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Replying to @SCMcG @brianpaddick and
Brian, I appreciate your attempts to listen, but you perhaps cannot hear the dogwhistle misogyny women hear when the words "[transgender] inclusion, rights and services" are juxtaposed with "no debate". I hear an incursionary push into female space, with all objections silenced.
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Replying to @MadamBiro @SCMcG and
Neither of us were at the meeting but I have the advantage of knowing
@LizBarkerLords. Liz is trying her level best to manage what has become a very volatile situation. Trans people suffer appalling prejudice & discrimination & also need safe spaces to discuss their own issues.13 replies 1 retweet 3 likes -
Replying to @brianpaddick @MadamBiro and
Hi Brian, I think we can agree on the need for safe spaces. Unfortunately I think a key reason that this has become a volatile situation is that women are being told we must cede ours, and the language we use to discuss ourselves is being forbidden.
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Replying to @HiccupFrog @brianpaddick and
The big question in the minds of most women is "Why should someone who until 10 years ago would have been called a transvestite or pre-op MtF TS be granted automatic access to female-only spaces and a female birth certificate as a solution to men's alleged hostility to them?"
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Replying to @MadamBiro @HiccupFrog and
My understanding is that they won’t be granted automatic access.
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Replying to @brianpaddick @HiccupFrog and
This is where the confusion lies. Unparalleled privacy laws for people with GRCs mean records of changes in legal sex are sealed. The original, factually correct, birth certificates are destroyed. There's thus no way for female-only service providers to prove a male isn't female.
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Replying to @MadamBiro @HiccupFrog and
I don’t think that’s true either. For example, if someone has a string of convictions, then transitions & gets a GRC, courts will still be told of their previous convictions if they offend again. Access to services, prisons etc. must be risk-assessed on an individual basis.
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Replying to @brianpaddick @MadamBiro and
Brian, genuine question, why have none of the political parties spoken to intersex women about this too? I know Trans Media Watch etc claim to speak on our behalf but trans isn't intersex. I feel like we're being used but not listened to.
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I’ve asked anyone who wants to talk to me face-to-face to DM me. Many have but no intersex people have. I’m very happy to meet with intersex people.
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