I will reiterate something I stated earlier. Please bear with me as it won’t fit into a single tweet. The unvarnished truth is that this discussion centres around whether some men should be afforded women’s rights. I am aware that some find that statement difficult.
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So why do I do it? Because I see & have been subjected to too much injustice. I want to make a difference & my position gives me a platform that helps my voice be heard. But I’m a sensitive & passionate human & can only take so much abuse.
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Hopefully the admiration of your courage and appreciation of your bravery to stand up and encourage questions and debate goes a small way to make up for the abuse you are receiving. Thank you
@brianpaddick
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I get it Jules. I’m not sure I’m even going to Pride and that is very, very sad.
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Listened to enough? We weren’t even a consideration in the first place. I appreciate that you’re trying to be unbiased, fair and look at this from all angles. If we often sound harsh and cold - we weren’t to start with but feel we have been pushed to take a harder stance.
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And many in the trans community feel the same way for the same reasons.
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Really? The government has ONLY listened to trans lobby groups on this subject.
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I’m not sure even trans lobby groups are listening to all transpeople. The TRAs seem to do everything they can to silence anyone who doesn’t comply with their opinions and they are the ones I’m concerned about. There are other trans voices, like Miranda Yardley.
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Keep talking, keep listening. Try to present the facts as you see them and try to influence where you can. That’s what I am trying to do. It’s not comfortable, but there it is.
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I appreciate what you are trying to do. Many others will too.
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Keep listening. You are showing others it is possible. We need our politicians to be brave, to be flawed, and to be thoughtful.
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As women, we are used to having our concerns dismissed. "Men's inappropriate behaviour" means that from a young age girls learn to manage male behaviour and assess risk to keep themselves safe. We de-escalate situations with men in pubs, on trains, in the street.
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And other man around often don't even notice. We never know which situations are the ones which could escalate, but social convention gives us clues: is this guy backing off based on what I say, is the man walking behind me at night walking at a distance I judge to be safe;
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is this person in a place where they belong? It shows a lack of insight into what it means to be a woman to not know this and it is telling when we are not listened to when we say it.
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And, thank you, for listening.
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Still getting confused between the EA and GRA then.
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Changes to the GRA will impact women’s protections under the EA. I have explained why to Lord Paddick on more than one occasion and will not repeat myself, but I have taken the time to try and understand the issues.
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If you wish to understand why women are objecting, there is a great deal of material here. We can only find a safe and fair way forward for everyone by discussing the impacts on both oppressed groups.
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Cis women have been intentionally misguided on this and its sad. But if dialogue is to occur it can only do so if everyone comes to the table with the foundational knowledge that trans women are women, trans men are men and non binary ppl exist.
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I do not consider myself cis and would appreciate it if you didn’t use that term to refer to me. I have read extensively around this topic and I do not believe I am misinformed. I cannot agree that any and all discussion must be carried out in the terms you suggest.
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There is no proof, nor is there medical consensus that it is possible to change sex, or that anyone is literally the opposite sex to that of the body they were born with.
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Until such time as there is proof, I feel that the question of whether women’s rights should be extended to some men should be stated in that factual way. I understand there are those who might find that distressing, but I do not believe that can be at the heart of the debate.
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