Personal insults now. Do you wonder why anyone is prepared to listen?
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I’m concerned that if self ID is allowed and the notion that transwomen are women is accepted, males will be allowed into female spaces as they will be viewed as actual females. Spaces: toilets, changing rooms, hospital wards, but mostly prisons & refuges.
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As now, prison and refuge places will be decided on an individual risk assessment.
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I think that refuges are already under pressure now, because they can lose funding if they are ‘not inclusive’ and that men should never be housed in prison with women. But my point was that accepting people can change sex means the EA could be bypassed?
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I’m being told that it will not
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If the equality act offers protections based on sex, and self identification of gender comes to override biological sex, how can it not?
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If someone states unequivocally that they are a woman, and have full documentation that states they are a woman, and having a GRC has special protected status so that it is illegal to ask if a person has one, how will anyone be able to prove they are not?
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There are exceptions as I have pointed out. There is no “right to be forgotten” if you have a criminal past, for example. You can’t erase your criminal record with a GRC.
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But exclusion from women’s spaces, such as refuges. Where those running the refuge feel that it is essential that women and children can be free from male bodies to recover. A number of the women campaigning with me have been so traumatised that they needed men-free spaces.
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Males who identify as female, no matter if they have honest intentions and are genuine or not, are still male. Many women are not comfortable with males in private female spaces for a multitude of reasons. It's rational and we should not be the ones having to justify it.
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This is a transgender man. You’ll allow this guy in your women-only spaces because, according to you, he’s female. So how do you tell the difference between this guy & a non-trans man intent on causing women harm? Anyway, it still has nothing to do with the GRA changes.pic.twitter.com/CR27Eqkocy
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Your basic assumption is that looks rather than reproductive capacity determine sex, which is, er, sexist. But yes we would for all the reasons
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Please highlight where I’ve made that assumption. My point is access to women-only safe spaces is, in reality, determined by looks & if you’re prepared to let this guy in, how do you keep predatory men out?
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Well, you've posted a picture of a passing transman, who is in fact female. The point would be that many trans people don't pass, first of all, so making it looks-based is genuinely transphobic. But in any case, if the trans community is growing and we want to maintain sex-...
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..based protections, then I don't see how you can avoid the addition of a mixed sex single-cubicle space. I would guess this person would prefer to go to the men's, but I am not going to force men to accept them, and also the poorly passing transmen.
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I'm dismayed that you don't understand why having single-sex facilities (including toilets, showers & changing rooms) is absolutely fundamental to women's and girls' participation in education, the workforce & sports. I very much hope this is not just a male empathy-gap.
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I’m a bit slow sometimes!
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What is staggering is that a simple 'no' from women doesn't suffice. These are spaces where we are vulnerable, undressed, perhaps ill, and we should just be able to say 'no, we wish to keep these sex-segregated'. Instead we're fighting smear campaigns, assaults and bomb threats.
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And of course what we're doing by insisting that our spaces matter is refusing to nurture (male) transwomen at our own expense. That always produces visceral rage.
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