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    1. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 5
      Replying to @StefanPaas @briandavidearp @opticon9

      And of course there is also a difference between what 'some sects' believe about the Hadieth, and what is authoritative and universal tradition in the mainstream of a religion. FGC isn't, not even in Islam. It does not have by far the status of MGC.

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    2. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Apr 5
      Replying to @StefanPaas @opticon9

      My thoughts on the “religion” argument are here - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316505694_Reason_and_paradox_in_medical_and_family_law_shaping_children's_bodies … - I hope you’ll consider giving it a read

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    3. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 5
      Replying to @briandavidearp @opticon9

      I might. But calling it a day now. Thanks for your time and effort.

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    4. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 6
      Replying to @StefanPaas @briandavidearp @opticon9

      Interesting paper, and a careful argument. A few questions, though. 1. it strikes me that you nowhere seem to define what 'harm' is. You note that it is a difficult and culture-dependent concept, but as it is so crucial to your argument: how do you define 'harm'?pic.twitter.com/8J1Bd1uF0t

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    5. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 6
      Replying to @StefanPaas @briandavidearp @opticon9

      When discussing the (possible) health advantaged of MGC and state that they do not outweigh the possible harm that is done, I wonder how this argument would look like if MGC would be done only in strictly hygienic conditions and in the least invasive form. Any studies into that?pic.twitter.com/8gu1N0EFUt

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    6. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 6
      Replying to @StefanPaas @briandavidearp @opticon9

      3. Although you make an argument that for Muslims FGC and MGC have an equal religious basis, you seem to avoid the question how this is in Judaism. Judaism is primarily a religion of practice (rather than doctrine) and MGC is the key practice. Any thoughts?

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    7. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Apr 6
      Replying to @StefanPaas @opticon9

      If it is the key practice why are women and girls excluded from it? Clearly one does not need to be circumcised to fully participate in Jewish lifehttps://academic.oup.com/ahr/article/113/1/136/41125 …

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    8. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 6
      Replying to @briandavidearp @opticon9

      Well, I suppose you can offer that as a theological or philosophical criticism, and that is all fair and square in a debate between citizens. But for the legislator this cannot be an argument, as the legislator does not do theology/philosophy.

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    9. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Apr 6
      Replying to @StefanPaas @opticon9

      I’m not a legislator, so, I am engaging in debate - that’s my only aim

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    10. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 6
      Replying to @briandavidearp @opticon9

      Okay, but you RT an article advocating outlawing it (beginning of this thread), and in your other paper (the one I read) you discuss all sorts of legal debates. Let's face it: these discussions are intimately connected.

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      Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Apr 6
      Replying to @StefanPaas @opticon9

      Almost all articles I tweet or retweet concerning any complex topic contain some claims with which I do not fully agree or am uncertain about. And yes, I discuss the legal debates, and yes morality and law are related (though often come apart). So, what is there to face?

      10:27 AM - 6 Apr 2018
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        2. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 6
          Replying to @briandavidearp @opticon9

          Well, to discuss morality with others whose entire lifestyle is at stake, is a bit like a discussion about English breakfast between a pig and a hen - committed vs. involved. It's not just an academic debate.

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        3. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Apr 6
          Replying to @StefanPaas @opticon9

          The entire lifestyle of Judaism is not reducible to circumcision. If it were, Jewish women would not have a rich and robust experience of being Jewish and participating in the lifestyle of the community. Judaism has a great deal to offer apart from this rite

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        4. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 6
          Replying to @briandavidearp @opticon9

          Of course, but we're talking about Jewish men, so this is hardly relevant.

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        5. Stefan Paas‏ @StefanPaas Apr 6
          Replying to @StefanPaas @briandavidearp @opticon9

          But if you could produce evidence that the majority of rabbis would have no problems with the abolition of circumcision, I would change my view. However, as far as I can see the opposite is true. Dutch rabbis even claim that this is a sine qua non.

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