Listened to the Harris podcast. Murray gets pretty handwavey in attempted rebuttal of Flynn. (E.g., citing a paper he admits he doesn't understand.) Strikes me that the legal concept of strict scrutiny is justified as an epistemic principle as well and this doesn't pass muster.
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Looking into racial IQ gaps doesn't seem interesting or helpful, but is warranted given race based policies (e.g. quotas for collage) and intense scruitinisation of racial differences in outcomes. Ezra is on a moral crusade assuming motivation to discuss is unconscious racism.
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My sense though is affirmative action should be treated as analytically separate from this IQ issue. Relatively easy to argue that AA can be counter-productive or misallocation of resources compared to HEAVY burden of proving certain groups are always and forever worse.
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There is a heavy burden on anyone making strong claim of cause for group differences (e.g. oppression, culture, or genetic differences). I thought short people like me were oppressed because of the height pay gap until height IQ studies made me consider that it is multi-faceted.
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The original article by Nisbett et al. was weird. It is careful not to present itself as mainstream per se, is full of innuendo and doesn't contain a single quote from the work they criticize. Judging from Klein's response the article is unproblematic. I don't buy it tbh.
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I think the word "race" is a problem in itself. How can "people" divide other people in groups that are simply different in skin color? Or whatever. If those "people" would understand this basic principle of being human, we wouldn't have any of these problems to begin with...
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@ezraklein has completely and dishonestly misrepresented@SamHarrisOrg ‘s position in this article and he has already addressed it.https://samharris.org/ezra-klein-editor-chief/ …Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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