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Brian D. Earp
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@Yale; @UniofOxford; @hastingscenter; @TheAtlantic - psychology, philosophy of science, bioethics, tech, politics, gender and sexuality, etc. RT ≠ endorsement.

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      Yes, it's a different objection. Surely you see that? Methods to content. Of course, people can disagree on either or both but you gave no indication of disagreement with our assessment of the fields before, just how we went about doing it.

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    2. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      The 3 things u said I indicated were not things I indicated. I’ve tried 2 discuss a specific issue re methodology; I’ve also repeatedly said I saw certain problems in gender studies etc. I *also* said that I think ur appraisal of those fields could have been more charitable

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    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      I'm charitable in the sense that I accept that they're probably trying to do good and believe what they're saying. We've said this repeatedly. That is what charitable means. We have epistemological and ethical disagreements which I have set out and argued for.

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    4. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      I see being charitable as actually trying to see the value in what someone is doing even if you don’t agree with all or even most of their conclusions or methods, not saying “I believe they are sincere, yet deluded”

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      It's not like they just blindly assumed the epistemology in some of these fields lacks objective value. They suspected it, then they became experts in the relevant fields to the degree that they got 7 papers accepted in reputable journals before making this claim.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Oct 28
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @briandavidearp and

      Maybe you should try aiming some of the charity you're advocating to this project.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      If you read my original string of tweets, you will see that a good proportion of them are devoted to saying the things about which I agree with the authors and the aspects of their hoax I saw as relatively good potential evidence of a special problem in the target fields

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      Assuming they haven't charitably assessed these fields given the just jaw-dropping amount of objective work (which was so rigorous, they were actually praised by many reviewers in the fields) they've put into studying them just doesn't seem super charitable to me.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @Intrinsic29 @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      What is so infuriating is that we did put so many hours into this every week for a year, especially James, and then spent more hours trying to explain it & putting everything out there and since then, we've been fielding constant quick, hot & uninformed takes on the significance

      3 replies 1 retweet 15 likes
    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 and

      We didn't engage properly. We didn't do enough. Methodology was shoddy. We want to shut down fields, stop scholarship into social justice issues. It's hard to describe how upsetting that is. I didn't anticipate feeling that way. But when you've spent a year & put so much work in.

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      Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29 @ConceptualJames

      I can definitely understand how, having put so much time into something, it would be frustrating 2 feel it was being repeatedly misrepresented etc. I gave my initial thoughts - I assume u wanted people to have thoughts, not just nod in agreement - at the time & then left it alone

      4:05 PM - 28 Oct 2018 from Bronx, NY
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        1. James Lindsay‏ @ConceptualJames Oct 28
          Replying to @briandavidearp @HPluckrose @Intrinsic29

          Initial thoughts are fine. They've been your pinned tweet for almost a month.

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        2. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
          Replying to @briandavidearp @HPluckrose and

          I tried 2 constrain my original thoughts 2 areas I'm pretty well informed about (psych, medicine, gender studies, methodology) & I tried 2 do so while acknowledging the value of your project and the parts I agreed with. I'd have thought that would be a more or less welcome thing

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
          Replying to @briandavidearp @Intrinsic29 @ConceptualJames

          I do see your good intentions.

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        4. James Lindsay‏ @ConceptualJames Oct 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp @Intrinsic29

          Me too.

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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
          Replying to @briandavidearp @Intrinsic29 @ConceptualJames

          I know you left it alone. We did want people to have thoughts but unfortunately, it was just too big and complicated for people to get much into it. There's so much. I could actually write a book on each paper.

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