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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      Our study sought to test whether we could get a journal to accept a paper which claimed it could detect human rape culture by watching dogs unwanted humping and then advocate ways to train men like dogs. It did. We do see a problem with that. We know others don't. Maybe you.

      2 replies 4 retweets 25 likes
    2. James Lindsay‏ @ConceptualJames Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp

      It's getting especially amusing to me to watch this thread play out (and Brian's retweets) knowing he hasn't really the faintest idea of what's actually in the dog-humping paper. If I were him, I'd shut up until I read it and its reviews, but hey.

      2 replies 2 retweets 21 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @ConceptualJames @briandavidearp

      It has become clear Brian's disagreement wasn't a simple misunderstanding of our claims as comparative and consequently in need of a control. Since clarifying that one, he's indicated an approval of Butler, an ambiguity on objective truth & the potential for approving our papers.

      3 replies 3 retweets 12 likes
    4. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      Helen I’d felt our exchange was charitable till now. I indicated that an insinuation that Butler’s corpus was of no value whatsoever seemed too strong, that I would need to know what specific claim a person was making about the notion of scientific objectivity (not ‘objective

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      ... truth’) before I could evaluate whether the claim had any merit, and that, as is generally the case, merely knowing the punchline of a paper written in bad faith without carefully reading it is not enough for me to conclude in advance its argument cannot have had any value.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      Yes, it's a different objection. Surely you see that? Methods to content. Of course, people can disagree on either or both but you gave no indication of disagreement with our assessment of the fields before, just how we went about doing it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      We've spent a lot of time talking to people who jumped from one objection to another and it makes for neverending and pointless conversations. There's an awful lot of resistance of the idea that it can be OK to critique these fields.I'm now wary of trying to talk to ppl who do it

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      Well I can certainly understand that. I see that you’ve been bombarded with many scattered tweets that are very accusatory and defensive etc & I can empathize w how exhausting it must be to keep fending all that off.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      I wrote initial thoughts some time ago & haven’t said anything more, haven’t harassed u all or spoken ill. Tried2 engage w u in positive way first time. Today James tweeted me out of blue w weird disingenuous-seeming questions, snide comments etc. I didn’t come at u for a debate

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      We just thought we'd laid the mistaken belief that we were making comparative claims to rest so James queried your pinned tweet still saying it. I think. Was that it?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      And I said right away that I just hadn’t gotten around to unpinning it. I hadn’t thought much about all this since then. I was just trying to take James’s questions as they came.

      3:45 PM - 28 Oct 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
          Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

          You don't have to unpin it. I'm sorry if you felt jumped on. We are just sick of being repeatedly misunderstood having tried so hard to be clear.

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. James Lindsay‏ @ConceptualJames Oct 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp

          I don't think he needs to unpin it, but he should justify having pinned it and left it there. That's why I asked. I thought his take was bad and disappointing on the 3rd, and I was surprised to find he was so glad about it that he had pinned it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        4. James Lindsay‏ @ConceptualJames Oct 28
          Replying to @ConceptualJames @HPluckrose @briandavidearp

          Given I now find he's barely read what he criticized, I'm glad I asked.

          2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
        5. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
          Replying to @ConceptualJames @HPluckrose

          I didn't criticize any of the content of specific papers. I clarified I hadn't carefully read the dog park one, though I did read it. 'What I criticized' was the overall method & inferences drawn, nothing at all about the content of any individual paper.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Rob Kiser‏ @rckiser Oct 28
          Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames @HPluckrose

          Sitting hear watching my friends and acquaintances argue amongst themselves, feeling like I should make you all a pot of tea to keep things calm.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        7. James Lindsay‏ @ConceptualJames Oct 28
          Replying to @rckiser @briandavidearp @HPluckrose

          Bring a pitcher of beer instead. #toxicmasculinity

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
          Replying to @ConceptualJames @rckiser @briandavidearp

          Tea.

          6 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
        9. James Lindsay‏ @ConceptualJames Oct 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose @rckiser

          pic.twitter.com/J48blU0KpM

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