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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @ConceptualJames @briandavidearp

      It has become clear Brian's disagreement wasn't a simple misunderstanding of our claims as comparative and consequently in need of a control. Since clarifying that one, he's indicated an approval of Butler, an ambiguity on objective truth & the potential for approving our papers.

      3 replies 3 retweets 12 likes
    2. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      Helen I’d felt our exchange was charitable till now. I indicated that an insinuation that Butler’s corpus was of no value whatsoever seemed too strong, that I would need to know what specific claim a person was making about the notion of scientific objectivity (not ‘objective

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      ... truth’) before I could evaluate whether the claim had any merit, and that, as is generally the case, merely knowing the punchline of a paper written in bad faith without carefully reading it is not enough for me to conclude in advance its argument cannot have had any value.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      Yes, it's a different objection. Surely you see that? Methods to content. Of course, people can disagree on either or both but you gave no indication of disagreement with our assessment of the fields before, just how we went about doing it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      The 3 things u said I indicated were not things I indicated. I’ve tried 2 discuss a specific issue re methodology; I’ve also repeatedly said I saw certain problems in gender studies etc. I *also* said that I think ur appraisal of those fields could have been more charitable

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      I'm charitable in the sense that I accept that they're probably trying to do good and believe what they're saying. We've said this repeatedly. That is what charitable means. We have epistemological and ethical disagreements which I have set out and argued for.

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    7. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      I see being charitable as actually trying to see the value in what someone is doing even if you don’t agree with all or even most of their conclusions or methods, not saying “I believe they are sincere, yet deluded”

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      But is it ever OK to form a conclusion against something? Our paper 'joke's on you' was about this. That no matter how deeply we go into something, even to the extent of publishing a paper in the top feminist philosophy journal on it, we'll still be accused of not engaging.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      We have engaged. I have been studying it for 9 years now. I don't think it has worth. If your default setting is that we must think everything has worth or merit being called 'uncharitable' we have a fundamental disagreement. I don't believe all ideas have worth.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      I don't *have to* see value in radical cultural constructivism and the application of liberal ethics on a scale in relation to power dynamics. I am within my rights to very strongly oppose this and argue for why. I will also let others argue their case.

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      Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      I don’t know what 2 say. I appreciate your writings on these topics. Something about the hoax struck me as being in bad faith. You don’t have to see value in anything, of course. I floated some thoughts weeks back & let it rest & said at time I admired your thinking generally

      3:36 PM - 28 Oct 2018
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
          Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

          We misrepresented ourselves for the purpose of the project (which we don't think of as hoaxes but are getting resigned to that term now) but we have not strayed from our purpose in doing it which is consistent with what we've done straightforwardly and for years.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
          Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

          I don't want to be confrontational either and I appreciate your good opinion of my work.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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