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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @ConceptualJames @briandavidearp

      It has become clear Brian's disagreement wasn't a simple misunderstanding of our claims as comparative and consequently in need of a control. Since clarifying that one, he's indicated an approval of Butler, an ambiguity on objective truth & the potential for approving our papers.

      3 replies 3 retweets 12 likes
    2. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      Helen I’d felt our exchange was charitable till now. I indicated that an insinuation that Butler’s corpus was of no value whatsoever seemed too strong, that I would need to know what specific claim a person was making about the notion of scientific objectivity (not ‘objective

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      ... truth’) before I could evaluate whether the claim had any merit, and that, as is generally the case, merely knowing the punchline of a paper written in bad faith without carefully reading it is not enough for me to conclude in advance its argument cannot have had any value.

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    4. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      So all three things you just attributed to me were misrepresentations and false, whether you intended them that way or not. I hope there’s a way to recover a more charitable discussion but I fear this may not be the venue

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      I'm not meaning to misrepresent you, just pointing out the objection has changed and you now think we might disagree on the nature of our problem with these fields rather than how to go about addressing it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      I said in my very first tweet thread from last week or whenever it was that I thought some of your characterizations of the fields you critiqued could have been more charitable & less broad brushed. I agree w much of ur critique & also see some as not very nuanced.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      We can discuss that another day but its in the Areo piece and I don't know how we can be more charitable than spelling out exactly what ideas we disagree with and why and stressing that they are not representative of everyone who studies gender, race & sexuality.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      You keep jumping from one objection to another. First it was methods, then epistemology & worth of fields, now we're generalising. Our views on all of these are in the Areo piece & I'm suspecting this is going to be one of those neverending & reaching conversations.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      I'm happy that we've come to an understanding on one thing and we can show all we have written about not generalising. If we're going to disagree on whether that approach has worth, I'm going to set that out in my book which will be a much better forum than Twitter for doing so.

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

      I am (admittedly uncharitably) concerned that if I answer your new objections, more will emerge and I just don't have time. We *are* going to criticise these fields for the reasons we've given & have written and will write much about why. That will have to do.

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      Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp Oct 28
      Replying to @HPluckrose @ConceptualJames

      Helen that’s all totally fine. You must be exhausted from all the conflict. I was trying to get some work done today as well, & started getting pinged @ by James, poking me to say whether I “stood by” my old string of tweets. I tried my best to answer honestly & w/o confrontation

      3:31 PM - 28 Oct 2018
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        1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose Oct 28
          Replying to @briandavidearp @ConceptualJames

          We are quite tired of people criticising things we didn't say and don't claim, yes. I just don't know how we could be any clearer. It's exhausting. But I accept that James started this conversation.

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