Our hoaxes provided good evidence of a problem. Our gained expertise in the field provided reason to believe it's a special problem. @HPluckrose
The first para of ur write up says, "especially in certain fields" ... "strong evidence has been lacking" ... "that is why we ..." I took this framing to suggest that you yourselves had provided strong evidence of the "especially" claim. If not, the framing seems misleading.pic.twitter.com/2TgEHr7CzW
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We are talking about a special something that has gone wrong. We say what it is in the next sentence and then explain in much more detail further down. I still don't know what you want. For us to have sent our papers to science departments & been told out of scope or not?
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Helen I feel we are somehow talking past each other. I'm sorry about that. Unfortunately I can't be on twitter any more today. I hope you'll reach out if you're interested and we can have a friendly conversation in real-time over Skype?
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I don't know how to be any clearer, Brian. I think if you accept that we were saying "There is a problem in radical constructivist approaches to the humanities and we spent a year inside it. This is what we did. Decide for yourself if its a problem" and nothing else, we're good
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Yes, Brian. We do claim that grievance studies is part of the humanities. If you can find physics departments offering courses on the cultural construction of gender drawing on Butler, knock yourself out. If we'd found any physics journals with this in their scope, we'd have sent
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Well, set aside physics. I don't know physics. I know psychology & medicine, & while those fields - in a trivial sense - do not tend to employ *that particular* theoretical approach, they apply many approaches that are as epistemologically worrying or worse when ill-used.
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OK. Maybe they do. We are looking at *that particular* theoretical approach tho. We set out what it is very clearly and it does exist in specific fields. It cannot reasonably be claimed that "there is a problem especially affecting the humanities" as a claim its the only problem.
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If someone started "There is a problem in the universities and it is particularly affecting the sciences" we wouldn't assume that it was a claim there is no problem anywhere else or that it was worst. We'd just know this paper is looking at a particular problem in the sciences.
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It is OK for people to look at particular problems in their own fields and say they are particular problems in their own fields without being assumed to have made any claims apart from that. "There is a particular problem in our field. We looked at it. Here you are."
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