Our hoaxes provided good evidence of a problem. Our gained expertise in the field provided reason to believe it's a special problem. @HPluckrose
... since, indeed, it WOULD be very hard to design a convincing experiment to test your very bold claims in a robust way, it seems to me the second best option would have been to characterize what your hoax "showed" in much more qualified and humble terms.
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More qualified and humble? We literally said we'd spent a year exploring a stystem and presented what we did and asked people to make their own minds up about whether it indicated a problem. You have created claims that haven't been made. This is what we claimed:pic.twitter.com/Pg2CZfJjiW
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The first para of ur write up says, "especially in certain fields" ... "strong evidence has been lacking" ... "that is why we ..." I took this framing to suggest that you yourselves had provided strong evidence of the "especially" claim. If not, the framing seems misleading.pic.twitter.com/2TgEHr7CzW
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We are talking about a special something that has gone wrong. We say what it is in the next sentence and then explain in much more detail further down. I still don't know what you want. For us to have sent our papers to science departments & been told out of scope or not?
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Helen I feel we are somehow talking past each other. I'm sorry about that. Unfortunately I can't be on twitter any more today. I hope you'll reach out if you're interested and we can have a friendly conversation in real-time over Skype?
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I don't know how to be any clearer, Brian. I think if you accept that we were saying "There is a problem in radical constructivist approaches to the humanities and we spent a year inside it. This is what we did. Decide for yourself if its a problem" and nothing else, we're good
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Brian, there is bad stuff in psychology and medicine, no doubt - and significant problems. But what the triumvirate of Helen, Peter, & James have shown is that you can manage to get positively insane papers published in Grievance Studies. You're overthinking this. No offense.
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Yes and we would support anyone with knowledge in those fields addressing it. We ourselves are not qualified to do so and thus don't make any claims about them.
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